Dead MacBook M1 after Using USB-C Multiport Hub Adapters/Docks

Well apple packages firmware with os upgrades so I assume this was a low level firmware change for the board. But I really wish they would tell us the fix to give the users more confidence. When my MBA arrives i plan to test one of these bad hubs if it fails I will return the computer as it will always be a question of what and when will it fail.

And then Apple released Big Sur 11.2.2 fixing the issue, which proves it was a software glitch. At least something preventable via software. Of course, they will blame it to the "non-compliant" USB-C hubs.

Anytime a User purchases Third-Party accessories to work with Apples Eco-System and the Third-Party does not comply with the Rules Apple has laid-out - - the risk of such things are bound to happen. Apple makes the devices, makes the software, makes the CPUs ( Apple Silicon ) - so the EcoSystem is Owned by Apple.

I have a Satechi hub with passthrough power that bricked my 13" M1 MBC for a second time today. After some online research, I'm fairly certain that it's the culprit. I'm still trying to figure out if any USB hub is safe to use - Apple support and website are not useful, peripheral manufacturers claim their devices should work, and I can only find customer reports for USB hubs that don't work.

Do you think that there are any technical specifications for the new M1 products that Apple has made public and the old peripherals fail to meet? That would, indeed, be grounds for blaming the third-party accessory manufacturers for failing to comply with the technical specifications.

I only asked because you sounded certain that the fault lies with the third-party manufacturers. I apologize if I misinterpreted your comment.

In the end, I think we would all agree we need a list of Apple-approved/certified/tested peripherals that are guaranteed to work with the new M1 products, or at the very least to not brick them. Apparently, a peripheral working fine with old Apple hardware is no guarantee it won't brick an M1 (I bricked my M1 MBP twice).

Apple has marketed itself in such a way that we, as customers, have come to expect their products to "just work," that's what we pay a premium for. In this case, they don't "just work," although Apple have given us no reason to doubt they would. I still think that's on them.

Logic tells me, the Intel based CPU using different Specs including Power requirements. Accessories designed for offer or draw Power based in Intel CPU power Apple computer has a way different Power providing - usage than on the New Apple Silicon based CPU. That is proven with the Bricking of M1 because the User was using Intel compliant accessories.

I think it should not be over complicated. The MacBook comes with USB-C port. You should be able to plug any USB-C device in there just as you do with any other device and don’t expect it to brick your laptop. Come on. If the USB-C port in MacBook M1 is going to be super delicate then Apple should not label it as a USB-C port or display a warning when a “non-compliant” device is plugged in. They released a fix. It was theirs.

I used a $100 Satechi USB hub, which is marketed specifically as a Mac hub, and is even made to perfectly match any of the three types of finishes of the MBP. That's what bricked my new M1 MBP. Twice.

So it's apparently not only Intel-specific devices that brick the new M1s.

Even if it were, I'd expect Apple to thoroughly test their new M1 hardware as they are the ones making, marketing, and selling it, and they have put an enormous effort into feeding our expectations that their relatively pricy products will "just work."

USB-C Power Delivery is pretty complex as the spec allows for

multiple voltages with varying amounts of power delivery

depending on the voltage.

It would have been much simpler if the USB-C PD spec said

that you can only deliver one voltage with some max capability.

Instead, the powers that be in industry decided that the USB-C connector

was to be a jack of all trades interface and obviously based on all

the USB-C based issues on all computers and devices (not just Apple

products) the master of none and even a demon. This is the result

of when specialization gives way to generalization.

What exactly did Apple do to fix this issue? Are they blocking all third-party USB hubs? Did they fix something in MacOS that was causing the power issue? I've purchased probably ~15 third-party USB hubs and now am concerned about upgrading those machines to 11.2.2.

As far as I know, they did not block any USB-C hubs. I updated both my Mac mini M1 and my 3 MacBook Air M1s and they are all working with USB-C hubs, adapters, etc. I just don't feel like trying PD yet.

I bought an Anker 6 in1 USB-C hub with USB-C power delivery: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B08CKXNJZS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I haven't used it for power delivery yet as this issue made me a bit paranoid.

I have reached out to Anker and they have assured me that their hubs are compliant. I also reached out to Apple support to double check, and they also said that they were not aware of any issues with Anker hubs with power delivery.

Going to try it out and see. Hopefully it does not brick my M1 Air!

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Hi Sir Lancaster,

I Just Bought MacBook Air 2020 M1 Week Ago.

I Bought ( UGREEN USB-C Multifunction Adapter ) For To Connect My iPhone XR, Data USB And Ethernet Cable With My MacBook Air 2020 M1.

I Have Question That Can I Use Third Party USB Hub To Only Connect My Phone Or USB..?

I Don't Want To Use It For Charging My MacBook Only Want To Use It To Connect My iPhone XR And Data USB.

Plz Suggest Me About This I Don't Want To Kill My MacBook.

Whatsapp: +923465969904