Why did apple remove Parler?

Has Apple made a official public statement on whey they removed Parler? I feel it’s clear, at this point (see The Independent’s article, etc.), that other apps, including FaceBook and Twitter, were just as bad, if not worse, in policing violent rhetoric on their platforms.


This matters to me. I’m not sure I want to continue doing business with a company that will use it’s “keeping me safe” mantra to control political thought. I need to know what was different in what Parler was doing and the others.


I’ve very upset by this. I’d like to understand but I cannot find an official statement. Surely I’m just missing it. Can someone point me in the right direction?


Thanks

Posted on Jan 14, 2021 5:38 PM

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Jan 16, 2021 7:53 AM in response to damuse

Apple did explain it in other sources (as did Google), and Amazon said reviewed a long list of posts that explicitly called for violent responses or were clearly used for organizing violent responses such as the one on January 6. Parler refused to remove these. Other platforms, when similar posts were reported, did remove them. It has nothing to do with political views, it was all about posts calling for and coordinating violence against public officials. I doubt that anyone involved will actually publish the inappropriate posts for what should be obvious reasons.


If it was just Apple/Google/Amazon/Microsoft and others trying to block political views why didn’t they take action 2 years ago? Why did Amazon agree to host Parler in the first place?

Jan 16, 2021 8:23 AM in response to damuse

Other platforms were used also, however, they took action against dangerous posts. Short of banning all social media there’s no way to completely prevent such posts.


Apple did say that was the reason, as did Google, and Amazon was very explicit about it. Google took immediate action; Apple gave Parler 24 hours to remove specific posts and Parler refused.


However, Apple’s and Google’s actions had very little practical affect. It prevented people who didn’t already have Parler from getting the app, but anyone who had it could continue using it. And anyone, either with or without the app, could still use the Parler website from their phone or any other device. All until Amazon pulled the plug, of course.

Jan 16, 2021 2:06 PM in response to damuse

The tech giants removing Parler was on the news several times and on all major web sites. You'll have to ask Google and Amazon, or do a web search yourself which is all we can do, for statements from Google and Amazon. As for Apple's statement, as quoted from The Verge, 'Parler will not return to the App Store until it has “demonstrated your ability to effectively moderate and filter the dangerous and harmful content on your service.”' They apparently did not demonstrate to Apple's estimation an ability to effectively moderate content so the app was removed from the App Store.


If you are referring to the terms of use for this web site for which I provided a link, if Apple decides a post on this forum is inappropriate it will remove it, or possibly if the entire things turning into a policy discussion they will remove the entire topic. I should add this topic is now dangerously heading that direction.

Jan 16, 2021 7:40 AM in response to Limnos

Thanks for your reply. I have read many articles as well. I just read the one posted by another user below. Please feel free to send me links to the articles you’ve read.


I don’t believe they made up their complaints about inciting violence. But I do believe this policy is being inconsistently applied in a way that results in viewpoint discrimination. The more I learn, the more I feel this is unjustified.


Have you read the articles about incitement found on the other platforms? I need Apple to explain why one needed to be taken down but not the others. If they have a good explanation for that then I’d be fine but that seems to be missing at the moment.

Jan 16, 2021 7:45 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

Thanks for your reply.


Unfortunately, that “statement” doesn’t explain why Parler needed to come down but not the other platforms (which, as a number of news articles attest, also continue to host “harmful” content). Until Apple explains why one needed to be taken down but not the others, I’m going to have serious concerns. I don’t like this at all.


I hope they make a statement soon.

Jan 16, 2021 8:17 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

Other platforms were used for this purpose as well. I’ve seen no reporting which backs up your claims Parler refused to address posts advocating violence. If that’s the case, then I would support Apple’s actions. A public statement by Apple would not have to disclose the posts to assert Parler refused to take down posts advocating for violence. Anything less leaves the strong appearance of viewpoint discrimination.

Jan 16, 2021 11:47 AM in response to damuse

Which "their"? The statement quote by The Verge from Apple is the one I remember seeing.


Remember, these are all corporations. As such they get to determine which products and services they wish to support. For example you will see on Terms of Use for this web site we aren't supposed to discuss matters of policy . If the moderators lose patience with this discussion drifting from the purely technical aspect of where Apple might post press releases, this entire conversation could disappear (as many other have for the product you are discussing) because a discussion of Apple's policies on their website is not something they wish to support.

Jan 16, 2021 1:52 PM in response to Limnos

Yeah, I’ve read that statement three times now. It says nothing about refusing to take down inappropriate content. Nor does it address that other platforms also had similar content. Despite Finch’s assertion, nothing I can find on the web addresses these two concerns.


You are right that Apple doesn’t have to justify itself to me. But inconsistently applying policy to silence some voices is inappropriate.

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