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Apple TV 4K problem with Dolby Vision

Best Apple users and developers,


Do you recognise this problem? In a dark room looks Dolby Vision on the Apple TV 4K like a mat/bright filter. I have a LG CX and all the Dolby Vision content that I played on the Apple TV 4K gives the OLED a grey filter instead that black is black.


Is this a bug in tvOS 14.3 (and earlier?) or is it a Dolby Vision problem in tvOS because the same content with Dolby Vision that I played on the X-Box one X or the native app on LG looks how Dolby Vision must be. Or is it a hardware failure in my Apple TV?


Hope the developers or any one have the answer.


These 2 photo's I took in my living room in the dark.

(Picture above is the Apple TV 4K and the picture in the bottom is the native app on the LG)

Both from the Disney+ app.

Apple TV 4K, 14

Posted on Jan 18, 2021 5:32 PM

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Jan 20, 2021 1:01 PM in response to Sciletto

Thank you for posting here in Apple Support Communities, Sciletto.


We can definitely see the difference in image quality within both photos, and we'd be happy to help. To start, we'd recommend that you check out the information along with the troubleshooting steps within the following resource: About 4K, HDR, and Dolby Vision on your Apple TV 4K


We should also check for any available updates for the tvOS as well. Here's how: How to update your Apple TV


Keep the community posted on the results.


Cheers!

Jan 20, 2021 1:19 PM in response to Corrie84

Best Corrie84,


I try all the steps what’s in the link but nothing works 😔 I believe it is a issue between LG CX and the communication with Dolby vision because the Apple TV worked perfectly with Dolby vision on a LG E8. I try it on the Xbox with the Disney app and the content pops to hdr instead of Dolby Vision while Dolby vision is set on.


Dolby works not wel on the new televisions and I hope Dolby do something on it.


a side note. Dolby Vision works fine when you use the native apps of LG. Like the Apple TV app or the Disney app. Then looks black...black. Why is that?

Mar 9, 2021 2:34 PM in response to giannis294

@giannis294

I got the solution but it is definitly a bug. Try this and let me know if it works at your model. It works at my model.


it's important that you are in dolby vision modus, so watch something with dolby vision. When you are there, set your brightness level in the menu to 49 instead of 50. I swear, it helps. Everything is black what supposed to be black😂 and do it in a pitch black room.



Mar 9, 2021 5:18 PM in response to Sciletto

thanks for your reply but did not work.


the only thing that works is the following


set ATV to Dolby vision all the time and match frame rate / dynamic range to on


so in Netflix DV shows are as good as with native app or Xbox one


seems to be an issue when changing from SDR to DV

keep in mind that the issue is only happening in Netflix app


with ATV+ all works ok - having ATV to SDR or DV all the time with frame rate / match dynamic range to on

Mar 17, 2021 9:27 AM in response to Corrie84

This is an issue with Apple TV. It’s been known for a long time but recently confirmed by someone on AVS forums. Please see the link and analysis here: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/2020-lg-oled-cx-gx-owners-thread-faq-posts-1-6-no-price-talk.3119288/page-854#post-60359866


Can we please get this escalated and fixed. It is the only thing holding me and a lot of people from using the ATV and it’s a horrible issue that defeats the purpose of all this high end content and equipment. It’s really a shame how long this issue has gone unacknowledged by Apple.

Apr 21, 2021 4:36 AM in response to mshiplet

There is a Dolby Vision problem in general. The colours and brightness levels are not good in combination with a lot of display's.


My first problem was deep dark issues. My LG CX shows through my Apple TV only grey colours instead of pitch black when Dolby Vision is on. My solution was the brightness level. I set it to 49 instead of 50 and everything is black, just how OLED supposed to be work.


My second problem is with Dolby Vision using through extern devices like the Apple TV 4K. The content with Disney+ on the Apple TV4K shows problems with light and dark. When there is a day scene,, the whole display goes bright and subtitle is white. When there is a darker scene, the whole display become darker and the subtitles are grey. When I use Dolby Vision with the apps of LG, everything works fine but when I using it with the Apple TV 4K, X-Box or whatever, the problems are there.


My question is:

Is this a HDMI 2.1 problem from LG self or is it Dolby Vision?


Because, HDR works fine on all devices.

May 21, 2021 10:28 AM in response to Sciletto

I may have some good news here. I bought the new 2021 Apple TV 4K and can confirm I have no more raised black levels in Dolby Vision. I own a LG C9 and have been having the raised blacks issue from the beginning; it’s gone now. Obviously it’s not the ideal solution because it requires purchasing a new product, but I’m just letting you know it seems to have been fixed with the new model. Hope this helped someone!

May 21, 2021 11:49 AM in response to el_presidente102

Definitely. I’ve tested a lot of movies now just to make sure — on multiple apps. I got a little scared when I tested Zack Snyder’s new movie on Netflix, Army of the Dead, because it shows slightly elevated blacks at the very beginning, but that turned out to just be the movie itself; it also looks that way on the C9’s internal Netflix app. So, based on what I’ve tested so far, it appears to be fixed. Maybe the fact that it’s a HDMI 2.1 device and requires a ultra high speed cable has made the difference, or maybe Apple has simply fixed it — I’m not sure.

May 21, 2021 7:35 PM in response to Sciletto

@sciletto,


It sounds like to me that the AppleTV is sending the DV data in its RGB 8 bit wrapper as it should, but either the ATV or the TV isn’t properly decoding the Full RGB 0-1023 video levels (normally used for PC signals) to the RGB 64-940 Limited video levels (normally used for video signals) as it is supposed to. This would result in the hazy, raised blacks you report.


The DV processing uses the Full 0-1023, 10 bit range, but it’s supposed to change it for display in the final stage to Limited 64-940 video range because that’s what Home Video displays are designed for. Since the Dolby processing happens in the TV when DV is sent as RGB 8 bit, as opposed to when it sends LLDV’s YUV 10-12 bit, then it appears the LG TV is at fault actually for not decoding the full DV signal properly. It could be something missing in the AppleTV’s DV output as well I guess, in which maybe it doesn’t signal the LG TV to go into Limited Mode for display, idk.


You can try this yourself with other input signals if your TV has the option to switch from Full to Limited video signals. If you test by watching the same scene with something like the Bluray or an SDR version of the film, try changing from RGB Limited to Full and back and you’ll see the same anomaly.

Apple TV 4K problem with Dolby Vision

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