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Need help restoring "Notes offline" from time machine

Hi, I upgraded my SSD on a 2013 MacBook Pro but needed to start over with a fresh user due to issues like sync problems with notes and the drive un mounting etc.


My new OS works great, notes syncing over iCloud, but my offline notes (ON MY MAC) from the older user remain on a Time Maching back up.,


Does anyone know which files I need to drag back into USER/Containers and USER/Group Containers?

I don't want to migrate or restore time machine back up of all the notes from fear of sync issues again, so I'm just trying to find a way to restore my ON MY MAC offline notes., I read somewhere that they are stored in a different folder.



Thanks in advance!


MacBook Pro Retina

Posted on Feb 5, 2021 3:01 AM

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Posted on Feb 5, 2021 9:32 AM

Here is something you can try -- all my Notes are using iCloud so I haven't tested this myself on my computer.


Download Find Any File. This is an app that can search through a variety of folders on Macs that Spotlight does not search in.


Pick a long and unique text string from one of your On My Mac Notes entries. Search for that using Find Any File, search for file content that contains that string. Spotlight would normally be the search tool to use but Spotlight does not search through all the Library folders and files.


This will perhaps help you find the location for On My Mac Notes content.


Caution: there may be multiple files and folders that need to be migrated properly for Notes to show your content on a different Mac. There is the actual text/graphics etc. content itself, which you can search for and probably find. But there is also index, date, ordering, and sorting/filing information that is used for keeping track of folders, ordering, indexing, etc. Without the latter, which is probably stored separately in some other location, Notes won't show things properly. Ordinarily, Apple's Migration Assistant moves everything over that you need for Notes to work on the new computer. However since you did this "by hand" yourself, dragging folders from various Library Containers and the like, without getting all the content + indexing/sorting info over, you might currently have only a portion of what is needed to properly show all your Notes. It is analogous to emails: just moving over the content of the emails is not enough, one also needs the date, sorting, folders, indexing etc. that allows the user to display, read, search, file etc. the emails properly.

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Feb 5, 2021 9:32 AM in response to GavrielTech

Here is something you can try -- all my Notes are using iCloud so I haven't tested this myself on my computer.


Download Find Any File. This is an app that can search through a variety of folders on Macs that Spotlight does not search in.


Pick a long and unique text string from one of your On My Mac Notes entries. Search for that using Find Any File, search for file content that contains that string. Spotlight would normally be the search tool to use but Spotlight does not search through all the Library folders and files.


This will perhaps help you find the location for On My Mac Notes content.


Caution: there may be multiple files and folders that need to be migrated properly for Notes to show your content on a different Mac. There is the actual text/graphics etc. content itself, which you can search for and probably find. But there is also index, date, ordering, and sorting/filing information that is used for keeping track of folders, ordering, indexing, etc. Without the latter, which is probably stored separately in some other location, Notes won't show things properly. Ordinarily, Apple's Migration Assistant moves everything over that you need for Notes to work on the new computer. However since you did this "by hand" yourself, dragging folders from various Library Containers and the like, without getting all the content + indexing/sorting info over, you might currently have only a portion of what is needed to properly show all your Notes. It is analogous to emails: just moving over the content of the emails is not enough, one also needs the date, sorting, folders, indexing etc. that allows the user to display, read, search, file etc. the emails properly.

Feb 6, 2021 2:44 AM in response to steve626

I have in the past dragged the notes folders from and to a fresh user account,

they where located in the user/library/containers and user/library/group containers ,


But as mentioned by many before, this caused a halt in syncing the online Cloud notes, they in fact appear in notes after relocating the folders, but suddenly vanish once sync kicked in., never to sync for days on until I gave up.


Now all iCloud notes sync again after creating a new user as advised


Problem is not the 35gb of iCloud notes but the huge 75GB of ON MY MAC notes I accumulated to save space on the paid 200GB family shared iCloud account :(

Feb 6, 2021 1:37 PM in response to steve626

I solved it....not so secure if you ask me,

I dragged the old notes related folders to the new user desktop from Time Machine back up; as my offline notes where so old, I have not changed anything for 6 months and instead focused on a number of projects with iCloud notes (sharing them) so I tried to see if the online notes will sync with them (if they showed up and they did).


I then did the same with the new user incase nothing worked,


I put the old folders int he new user/container and group container folders, at this point the same exact thing happened where all my offline notes appeared and all the notes in the iCloud area vanished almost instantly... however, I left it alone for an hour and it started to sync!


I can't thank you and everyone else here enough for the patience and time shared to help people, these are normally very stressful situations, some more then others, I mean..if I only had one device I think I would of gotten very upset.


Anyway, really appreciate helping me get through this some how.

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