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Clean-up of sluggish iMac?

I have a 2011 iMac which I am planning to replace with the new iMac when it comes out this year.


My current iMac is continually displaying signs of sluggishness, with frequent appearances of the “spinning beachball of death”, in spite of it having lots of RAM (12GB), lots of free disk space, and the best processor I could buy in 2011 (i7 quad core).  I also recently de-fragged my 1TB hard drive, and it’s now less than half full.  Given that much of this sluggishness might be due to some software factors, and that I would like to simply copy my apps and data to the new machine when I get it, I would like to track down any software issues before then.


So what tests and clean-up activities can I undertake to prepare for this software move?  Are there any utilities I can invoke which will help in this cleanup?  I currently have TechTool Pro and CleanMyMac X, but of course only run them when I want to do something.  I have also done a MalwareBytes scan for viruses (came up clean).  Sluggishness pre-dated the acquisition of CleanMyMac X.  TechTool doesn’t find any computer hardware issues when I run it.


Thanks for any suggestions.


Paul.

iMac Line (2012 and Later)

Posted on Mar 14, 2021 8:48 AM

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Posted on Mar 15, 2021 12:46 PM

TL;DR: see if installing and booting from a Thunderbolt SSD helps. Thunderbolt SSD is the fastest available external bus on that iMac. As a less-expensive option pending replacement, reinstalling macOS with just the pieces you need right now can potentially get you a little better performance. This by purging what you don't need or aren't using.


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That hard disk isn't going to be helpful to aggregate system performance. Downhill with a tail-wind, a fast hard disk does 150 to 200 I/O operations per second. You don't have a fast hard disk. For comparison, a slow SSD can do 100,000 operations per second and faster SSDs provide substantially more performance than that.


And you're definitely short on memory for all of what you're trying to use that iMac for.


Booting and running from an external Thunderbolt SSD might get you a few more years. Internal hardware upgrades for 21.5" iMac can be somewhat of a hassle to perform. An Apple authorized repair provider might be willing to swap in an internal SSD and more memory. And even with these upgrades, you're still spending money on a 2011 iMac, and that iMac is not going to run current macOS.


That's a whole pile of apps plus Parallels and MacFUSE and the rest, on what is fairly close to a decade-old low-end Mac. Malware Bytes and iStat and anything else you don't need to be running are all candidates to have automatic startups disabled. And FWIW, your version of Microsoft Office is incompatible with Catalina and later. Silverlight is long gone.


i7 is (was) decently fast for its time, but that box is skewed toward CPU and tends to be lacking in memory and storage performance—Intel's advertising efforts aside, computers are systems, and a computer is only as fast as its slowest part. Not its fastest. Memory is a cache that makes up (somewhat) for slow I/O performance of the hard disk. With little memory and a slow hard disk, you're going to be waiting for your hard disk. Which'll start to beachball


Ten years in computer years is a very long time—if planning to keep a Mac going across most of a decade of software updates, my preference is buying nearer to the top-end of the built-to-order product offerings across processor, memory, and storage.


Here, a decade-old iMac hard disk is also approaching its usual and customary lifetime, and a failing hard disk tends to get slower. (You do have backups going here, which is a good way to avoid data loss on storage failure. Which is good. Keep those backups going.)


For long-term usage of a new Intel Macs, I'd go with 32 GB memory if that's affordable and available.


Macs with Apple M1 are an interesting case here, as Apple is using a new processor architecture (Arm) and a new processor design (SoC) with memory right with the SoC processor, and your choices with M1 are either 8 GB or 16 GB, and I'd go 16 GB.


Apple is also completing the transition of the entire Mac product line from Intel x86-64 processors to Apple silicon processors over the next year or so, so we're to be seeing a bunch of new options arriving, beyond the three new M1 Macs that have already arrived.


What options and alternatives might be offered with new Apple silicon processors and what arrives after M1 we shall learn.

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Mar 15, 2021 12:46 PM in response to Paul Fryer

TL;DR: see if installing and booting from a Thunderbolt SSD helps. Thunderbolt SSD is the fastest available external bus on that iMac. As a less-expensive option pending replacement, reinstalling macOS with just the pieces you need right now can potentially get you a little better performance. This by purging what you don't need or aren't using.


General...


That hard disk isn't going to be helpful to aggregate system performance. Downhill with a tail-wind, a fast hard disk does 150 to 200 I/O operations per second. You don't have a fast hard disk. For comparison, a slow SSD can do 100,000 operations per second and faster SSDs provide substantially more performance than that.


And you're definitely short on memory for all of what you're trying to use that iMac for.


Booting and running from an external Thunderbolt SSD might get you a few more years. Internal hardware upgrades for 21.5" iMac can be somewhat of a hassle to perform. An Apple authorized repair provider might be willing to swap in an internal SSD and more memory. And even with these upgrades, you're still spending money on a 2011 iMac, and that iMac is not going to run current macOS.


That's a whole pile of apps plus Parallels and MacFUSE and the rest, on what is fairly close to a decade-old low-end Mac. Malware Bytes and iStat and anything else you don't need to be running are all candidates to have automatic startups disabled. And FWIW, your version of Microsoft Office is incompatible with Catalina and later. Silverlight is long gone.


i7 is (was) decently fast for its time, but that box is skewed toward CPU and tends to be lacking in memory and storage performance—Intel's advertising efforts aside, computers are systems, and a computer is only as fast as its slowest part. Not its fastest. Memory is a cache that makes up (somewhat) for slow I/O performance of the hard disk. With little memory and a slow hard disk, you're going to be waiting for your hard disk. Which'll start to beachball


Ten years in computer years is a very long time—if planning to keep a Mac going across most of a decade of software updates, my preference is buying nearer to the top-end of the built-to-order product offerings across processor, memory, and storage.


Here, a decade-old iMac hard disk is also approaching its usual and customary lifetime, and a failing hard disk tends to get slower. (You do have backups going here, which is a good way to avoid data loss on storage failure. Which is good. Keep those backups going.)


For long-term usage of a new Intel Macs, I'd go with 32 GB memory if that's affordable and available.


Macs with Apple M1 are an interesting case here, as Apple is using a new processor architecture (Arm) and a new processor design (SoC) with memory right with the SoC processor, and your choices with M1 are either 8 GB or 16 GB, and I'd go 16 GB.


Apple is also completing the transition of the entire Mac product line from Intel x86-64 processors to Apple silicon processors over the next year or so, so we're to be seeing a bunch of new options arriving, beyond the three new M1 Macs that have already arrived.


What options and alternatives might be offered with new Apple silicon processors and what arrives after M1 we shall learn.

Mar 15, 2021 11:59 AM in response to MrHoffman

Thanks. Did what you suggested, and here is the report. Let me know what you think.


Interesting comment about the amount of RAM, and the report also mentions it. I thought when I bought the iMac 10 years ago that 12GB was plenty, but apparently not now. While I'm not planning to add more now, I would appreciate advice on how much I should ask for on the new computer when I get it.


Paul.

Mar 14, 2021 10:46 AM in response to Paul Fryer

You don’t have lots if memory, and you might have a failing storage device, and you’ve installed some products from classes of apps that have generally had a history of causing performance and stability issues.


Get a backup on the off chance this is a nascent hardware problem, then remove CleanMyMac and any other “cleaner” apps, and remove any add-on anti-malware apps that might be here.


Download and run and then gather the output of EtreCheck here. In EtreCheck, the share button can be used to copy the report to the clipboard, ready to be pasted. Open a new reply here in the forum, and then press the button that looks like a printed page to get a text input box big enough to paste the hardware and software configuration report here, a d paste the EtreCheck report. From that, we can get some idea of the hardware condition, and what software might be involved.

Mar 15, 2021 1:47 PM in response to MrHoffman

Many thanks for that detailed reply.


I'm living with the current performance (just) and don't plan on doing any hardware upgrades to the current iMac, since I have already decided to replace it this summer if/when the M1 or better (hopefully) iMac replacement comes out. I do plan on getting as much performance in that new iMac as I reasonably can, and your suggestions are appreciated. This one has lasted well until recently, but as you say won't run current MacOS or MS Office. And it seems to be bottlenecked by memory and hard drive.


My main concern was that I would transfer out-of-date or harmful apps etc from the old to the new, and thus perpetuate the sluggishness. Using EtreCheck has highlighted some old things, some of which I certainly aren't using, so they will go and that should help, but little in the way of malware was reported. I have started to go down my list of apps with the pruning shears and am being fairly ruthless, since some of them were freebies that sounded nice to have but really aren't particularly useful.


Paul.

Mar 15, 2021 2:27 PM in response to Paul Fryer

Your choices are cleaning up the old stuff yourself (manually), of transitioning it all over using Migration Assistant and allowing the Catalina 64-bit transition (Go64 tool) to "clobber" the oldest apps for you (and also the subsequent kext deprecation), or starting over and migrating over those pieces and documents you find you want or need.


No good choice.


I've used all three approaches, on various systems and various migrations.

Mar 16, 2021 1:13 PM in response to MrHoffman

I'm cleaning up now what I can, but doubt that I can do it all. But I'm not going to do a pick-and-choose migration, so it will be Migration Assistant.


When I move over to the new iMac with the latest OS, what will happen to all the old apps that aren't 64-bit? It would appear logical that the Apple items will disappear, but what about the rest? Will it get partitioned somewhere, or deleted, or transitioned anyway?


Go64 is an interesting tool (thanks for that) and is helping to find old stuff. But some of the apps it finds are buried deep within various libraries, etc, and I am dubious about just deleting them individually. If such an app belongs to something I no longer need, can I let Go64 just delete them?


The Microsoft stuff is of the greatest concern. I need to continue to use the old Word, Excel, etc., for now, but will be buying the new MS Office for the new computer, and I really don't want any of the old stuff left lying around - and there's a ton of it. Again, if the move to Catalina/Big Sur just zaps it all, that's OK, but if it doesn't . . . . ?


Paul.

Clean-up of sluggish iMac?

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