MacBook Pro M1 WiFi issue

Hello everyone.

I recently bought a new MacBook Pro M1, and I am struggling with the WiFi connection since it first boot. I am running OSx 11.2.3 (20D91).


The WiFi connection is totally unstable and unreliable, even if it shows a good connection status. My iPhone has extremely better performance, and also my old 2012 Mac had it until its failure.


If I use a 5 GHz network, I can achieve a reasonable speed (about 50 Mbps), but it is totally unstable: the connection so often drops, especially when doing intense network tasks (i.e. video conferencing). The issue is even worse with 2.4 GHz networks.



Here the same speedtest with my iPhone


Here the net status


I am about 7 meters away from the router, if I move closer it works better, but I am very disappointed: I always worked from my desk, without any kind of issue, until trying this new Mac.


I already tried to set up the router as suggested by Apple, and also with other routers, I have similar problems.


Does anyone have any suggestions? (Moving closer to the router, or change it are not solutions: every other device here works, so also this M1 Mac does).


With my warmest regards,

Luca

MacBook Pro with Touch Bar

Posted on Mar 16, 2021 2:30 AM

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Posted on Feb 12, 2022 8:03 AM

This may be a little long but hopefully worth it for those of you using USB C hubs.


I had the same issue with my new 2021 MacBook Pro M1 Pro (and posted about it previously). It was intermittent, though. Ethernet still worked like a charm. They were very nice at Apple support, but they could not figure out the source after a bunch of calls. Because it was within my 90-day return period at Costco, I returned it and bought another one, figuring it was a bad wifi antenna. Now, the same thing is happening with the new one, but mainly right after it comes out of sleep (which is different behavior). I "usually" can resolve it by toggling my wifi on/off or restarting the machine. (So, I'm feeling a little guilty right now, which you'll know why after reading below because I otherwise loved that machine ... and I have been a Windows guy for the longest while.)


This morning after waking my machine from sleep, the same thing happened. Coincidentally, I was shopping yesterday on Amazon for a USB C hub for my daughter's MacBook Air and read one review that complained about the hub interfering with wifi connectivity. On a hunch just now, I unplugged my own USB C hub, and voila, my Speedtest.net download speeds returned to normal (e.g., 350/380 Mbps). I plugged it back in, and everything gradually slows down (eventually dropping to 1 Mbps to 25 Mbps). I repeated this process multiple times just now with the same consistent response.


My current setup is a USB C hub plugged into the USB C port on the right side of my machine. Connected to that hub is a powered USB-A hub. (I tried just now stretching the cords to their full lengths to create some separation, with no change.) Between the two hubs, I have connected the following devices: HDMI monitor, wired Logitech keyboard, wired Logitech mouse, Logitech HD 1080p webcam, Envato Wave 3 microphone (which is very new), and a Wacom tablet (just connected the other day for first time). I am using the HDMI port on the right side of the machine (so I can have dual monitors). On the left side, I have an SSD connected via USB C (also recently connected), and the audio jack connected to external speakers.


Things are sorta better now on their own, which typically happens, but not great. On a side note, once the problem occurs, Safari has a much harder time bouncing back than Chrome does, at least this morning it does. However, I just tried unchecking "Limit IP Address Tracking" as suggested above, and Safari is doing better than it was - now 185 Mbps on average versus Chrome's average of 220 Mbps. Neither of these speeds is as good as my top speeds without the hub plugged in.


On another note, I have no bluetooth devices connected to my machine (or hub). I disabled bluetooth anyway, but it doesn't seem to improve things back to the 350/380 Mbps range.


I will continue to diagnose and see if I can pinpoint the actual device causing the problem (which is probably the USB C hub). I may order a bunch of different hubs, but if you want one with a lot of ports, they're all third-party. I shelled out $69 yesterday to buy Apple's own USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter, on top of another third-party one for my daughter, but that's only because it's for her. I typically am too cheap when buying things for myself (my MacBook being the sole exception ... my previous Windows laptop was $500), but I may now consider doing the same for myself. If I learn anything new, I will report here.


Sorry this is so long.


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Jul 8, 2021 4:31 AM in response to lgilardi

My MacBook Pro M1 bought in January 2021 has the same problem: Dropping of the wifi-connection randomly in the exact same location where my older Macbook Pro or my iMac have continuously stable connections using the same network.


The number of identical negative experiences on this forum hints to a hardware problem around the wifi-reception on the new M1Apple computers rather than a software problem or an external issue.


If this were a software issue, it would have been resolved with one of the recent updates, which it obviously has not been.


Does someone have a technical clue where this problem could be located in the computer hardware (wifi-antenna, shielding, overheating of an electronic part, et cetera)?


Thanks in advance for your answers, best wishes

Christoph














Jul 31, 2021 6:53 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I use a 2.4 GHz band Router with auto settings (20/40 MHz) yet still have this drop wifi connection.

In my case, it can't be about 5Ghz at 80MHz. I live in a small apartment with two bedrooms, and the router is in the center of the unit. My friend who also owned MBA M1, even living in a smaller apartment, also having this issue. Other non-M1 Macs and Windows PCs, including other wifi-connected peripherals are having a safe connection.


I am assuming, by this far, the wifi inside the MBA M1 is having a thermal issue, that they stop working at some point of heavy loads. Yes, heavy loads. The connection drops when using such a long video conference. This is a very noticeable occasion, obviously.


I am living in Jakarta, with a warm, humid climate. The ambiance temperature is between 27-29 degrees Celsius without air conditioning.


However, there should be an empirical experiment to test the wifi working temperature.

I am looking forward to solutions.


Edit:

For additional information, I am using a ZTE F609 router. To access more optional changes to the router setting, actually, there are two accounts. One is the "user" level with minimum options, and the other is "admin" for more flexible settings. Perhaps other ISP would do the same for their level of security.

Sep 21, 2021 3:49 PM in response to sbrown02

For those of you worried about 80MHz channel width being a problem, that's not likely in the cases of people continually dropping from enterprise WiFi while never having problems with home WiFi. In office environments the channel width is usually kept small -- 20MHz or maybe 40. Otherwise the co-channel interference kills you.


My freshman who couldn't keep an internet connection for more than a couple of minutes at a time sent her MBA home and her parents took it to the Apple Store over the weekend -- one of her USB ports was broken. She brought it to me today having just gotten it back -- and it had a totally rock-solid internet connection the whole time she was in.


It was exhibiting a different bizarre symptom with the podcast app, not sure if that's related.


I was wondering if the Apple Store could repair a damaged USB on an MBA, and wondering if they might swap it for new hardware. If they did, and the new hardware has no problem, that would certainly argue for it being a HW problem. If they did repair it, I'm then suspicious that they did something like re-seat the antenna.


(This would work a lot better if I had possession of a failing device rather than having to borrow it from an 18-yr-old who thinks I'm just making excuses for "crappy WiFi". Anybody up for a road trip LOL?)

Dec 11, 2021 8:17 AM in response to johnjliu

I have an app called wifi explorer and one of the things it does is show me all the versions of my wifi that are available and which of those I am currently actually connected to. I have a satellite system (Orbi) and it operates 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz bands. Sometimes I get slower connection because it switches to the 2.4 Ghz band, which is just slower.


My old Intel laptop seemed much more stable and stuck with the 5 Ghz network as it should. Since I have a satellite it has to pick the best of my 4 choices: 2 2.4 Ghz networks and 2.5 Ghz networks. It was that bouncing around and sometimes picking the weakest network from the other side of the house that seemed to be my issue.


I would turn of 2.4 Ghz altogether except I am pretty sure my printer only handles 2.4 Ghz unfortunately.


If you option-click your network icon, it will show you more details of your connection, including your transmit rate. As you can see I am currently at Starbucks ...


Dec 15, 2021 3:07 PM in response to Chords

The antennas have been in the back near the air exits under the bottom edge of the display.


Wi-Fi is impeded slightly by ordinary furniture and construction materials, and heavily by heavy masonry like chimneys.


If this improves your reception, consider placing your Router up on an a higher surface, so that it is not transmitting through your table.

Dec 18, 2021 5:10 PM in response to Jonathan Payne1

Purchased a M1 MBA for my wife in October. Came with Big Sur. Still using it. Experiencing the same wifi drops as all of you have. Spoke with Apple support briefly a couple of weeks ago. Only thing we tried was starting in Safe Mode which did nothing since it can't be replicated on request. So, randomly, the MBA shows it is connected to wifi, but it is not connected to the internet.


Only temporary fix is to toggle wifi off then on again to restore internet. This is absurd. I have been a Mac user for 30+ years. 1st Mac I have had that is unreliable for internet.



Mar 14, 2022 9:15 AM in response to lgilardi

same issue with my macbook air M1,

issue description: when doing multiple tasks and putting stress on internet connection (for example, while on zoom meeting and opening multiple chrome tabs), internet become very slow and even disappear (although wifi sign shows full strength) and only return to normal after disconnecting/reconnecting wifi. two visits to apple genius bar with system reinstall but no effect (saying it is a software not hardware issue according to their diagnostics), also three calls to apple support without any diagnosis.


I used to have issue with internet failing to start after waking laptop up from sleep (only solved with restart), but I think it disappeared after 12.1 update


I have a still working mac mini 2011 on same network without any issues

Mar 15, 2022 2:39 PM in response to Jonathan Payne1

So I just went through a period of flakiness and here's what I saw.


It suddenly decided to switch to my distant -79 Db 5 Ghz router.



10 seconds later it decided to go back:



I have no idea why it would make that choice. When it changes its mind sometimes my internet connection is down.


Driver issue?


Sure feels like it.


I should turn on logging and send it to Apple ... it's just pretty intermittent and I admit I don't know how to do it myself.

Mar 17, 2022 12:37 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Yes there are lots of well meaning but ultimately unreliable comments.


Personally, having paid a few grand for an M1 I really don't expect to have to be resorting to tech support for something as basic as wifi connectivity, especially with older standard gear.


I have been looking for a solution to my M1 (and wife & sons iPhones) dropping video for a while during calls, and nothing I have found anywhere has solved the problem. (I mess about a bit in IT so not a complete noob here)


I can buy a product for a quarter of the price and it works perfectly.................... that really is a kick in the teeth.


From testing I am pretty certain it is related to my routers that it does not like - if I connect to say my Android mobile via hotspot it seems OK. My wifes iPhones are really not happy either, particularly with Facetime, but equally Jitsi, Whatsapp etc. She has to turn off wifi to make a call.


I have a Gigabit fibre connection through the ISP modem with PPPoE on a Mikrotik router. Data speed tests on the 5Ghz wifi run around 2-300 Mps which is fine for me. I'm after reliability on this, not outright speed here.


I have a bunch of older Netgear PoE APs running 2.4Ghz 'g' fixed 20Mhz and 5Ghz 'an' running 20/40Mhz dynamic as recommended (along with all the other recommended settings I can find eg WMM etc) They all have the same SSID so you can roam easily. It isn't like they are new and flakey. All my non cheaper Apple kit works fine with them with no issues.


Under normal surfing/browsing it seems to be fine with plenty of speed, but video calls are a fail - I can see it sit at around 4Mbs and it then literally just drops, and then after a bit of a pause it picks up again. My even *older* 2.4Ghz 'g' only APs were actually *more* reliable for video (but slow)!! Same results with browsers or apps. I have tested til my eyes bled and I am fed up with reconfiguring things 99 times.


Under Wifi diagnostics RSSI and NSR seem fine. I've removed all other AP settings, renamed an AP SSID to simulate a different network for good measure so it doesn't try and channel hop, and it still does pauses/drops. I can see that sometimes it seems the drops are associated with a drop in speed, but other times it can show a steady 300Mbs and pause/hang the call. The application just sits there and waits for a reconnection. I can only presume that it is the internal hardware or software having a hissy fit and trying to renegotiate something it doesn't need too.


Interestingly, while on a video call on the M1 even pinging my local server or gateway through a terminal times out. That really makes zero sense. Seems like the network is overloaded, even when it is using less than 1Mbs. WHAT???????


Clearly there is an issue with certain access points that no one has got to the bottom of. I have learned a lot about the diagnostic capabilities of a Macbook, some of which is pretty arcane and obscure, and can see certain things in the logs, but depressingly no information on them anywhere. But ultimately if it says it supports some or other protocol, be it b/g/n it has to work.


All in all a frustrating experience for the money, and I won't be doing it again in a hurry. I'll be sticking to my linux based kit in future.


Now off to blow my brains out for a load of new (non Apple) access points because it is easier than fighting this thing. Joy.


"Disappointed"


Mar 19, 2021 9:21 AM in response to lgilardi

Dear Nicholas_B2, you all,

I did the diagnose, it started about at 8:55 am.

I noticed this network issue:

  • 10:18 am I was 3D drawing with Autodesk TinkerCAD and I was kicked off by the online software
  • 2:34 pm - The connection in a Google Meet conference dropped for a few seconds, and I noticed the wifi signal indicator showing a disconnection from the network
  • 2:38 pm - it happened again
  • 15:34:49 the utility showed me an interruption of connection (but I was not able to notice it, even if I was doing a videoconference). I was not able to restart the monitoring (because I was the speaker of the conference, and I could not deal with it during the event).
  • 4:53 pm - Again kicked by TinkerCAD


Hope that this information helps in finding a solution,

My kindest regards,

Luca


Mar 22, 2021 8:51 AM in response to lgilardi

Luca,


We want to make sure this issue is resolved as quickly as possible. We understand you're experiencing Wi-Fi performance issues when using specific third-party apps.


Since it's isolated to these third-party apps, we'd recommend contacting the developer of each app to determine why this is happening. This is why we've shared links to TinkerCAD's support site, as well as Google's support site.


In addition to the links in our previous response, you can contact Zoom Help Center, Microsoft Support for Teams, and LogMeIn Support for help with GoToWebinar and GoToMeeting.


To address the speed of your internet connection, we'd recommend reviewing the steps in our first response on how to Resolve Wi-Fi and Bluetooth issues caused by wireless interference. Please see the section on how to reduce wireless interference for details on devices using 2.4 GHz band.


If you're still unable to resolve this issue after working with each third-party, please Contact Apple Support.


Best regards.

Apr 20, 2021 3:37 AM in response to jeremy_v

I am having the exact same issues on my brand new Macbook Pro M1.

It seems like internet connectivity intermittently drops - this does not seem to be related to any specific site or product as mentioned above. I also had to refresh this page many times before it finally worked. Is there anything else to do?

I have verified that internet and WFI is fast on every device I have and it seems to work normally, but connection get dropped frequently.


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