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Airport Extreme/Time Capsule

What replacements work with Airport Utility?


Thank you, Tom

MacBook Pro

Posted on Mar 19, 2021 5:20 PM

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Posted on Mar 19, 2021 6:13 PM

There is no feedback link for the Time Capsule or other AirPort routers, since they were all discontinued about 3 years ago.


The closest that you will come to Time Capsule feedback is Time Machine feedback.


https://www.apple.com/feedback/timemachine.html



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Mar 19, 2021 5:40 PM in response to Tom Meade1

None.. the Airport Utility is UNIQUE to Apple routers.. it is not compatible with any other router made.


All non apple routers use built in HTTP web page and/or a controller with cloud links for mobile phone app or use on computer or special controller box.

Apple airport utility is totally minimalist and has zero serious controls. Like a log so you can find out what is going on. So why do you want to keep using it??


Mar 19, 2021 6:03 PM in response to Bob Timmons

It seems I have two answers - one reinforcing of the other - will credit first responder with

Solved and Bob with helpful. Having said that where do I go from here? Fortunately, for

all intents and purposes the combo of TC and Airport Expresses is enough for my home -

but thinking of the future when the devices burn out or I need mesh tech in a new place

's walked away - as surely they have bigger and more fish to fry - but where can I register

a plea for them to tally?

Mar 25, 2021 10:59 PM in response to Tom Meade1

Read the info about mesh systems.. almost all mesh systems use cloud + phone app.


https://dongknows.com/web-interface-vs-mobile-app/


The apple interface for the airport utility is built into the routers.. hence the utility does not require an internet connection.

The vast majority of mesh systems do not have inbuilt controllers .. rather they use a cloud system that each component of the network reports into. This is then open to abuse.

I really don't want my internal network info shared on a server in another country for example.. China particularly but any place that has different rules or different system. BTW USA is not excluded from attacks on those systems.. indeed many are at risk as indeed actually happened.

https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/hacking/358290/ubiquiti-networks-data-breach


There is a middle path.. instead of the controller living on cloud it can be a small box running say linux with standard web access. This could also be hosted on a computer and you can use phone app to access it or any browser at all.


What was good about the Apple system is that it was internal.. no cloud access was even available.. it was developed long before cloud became a thing. A modern equivalent then is available from companies like Ubiquiti and TP-Link that offers a small cheap low power box in the network.. that monitors your system 24/7 and allows system wide changes to rules. You can easily see which clients have used the most internet data etc.. so far more detailed than Apple utility which could have been great with a bit more effort.

Mar 30, 2021 7:31 PM in response to LaPastenague

Based on a warning I’d put my Chinese IP switches on a guest network - but the switch setup app kept harping about “no internet” - so I bought the HomeKit versions with security - but they were flaky - a lot of the time the app couldn’t reach the device. First thing this morning I ripped out all the IP switches and plugged every Airport Express into the wall. Here I was going to save a few watts - 15 x 6 per hr. - but the shock of power cycling probably shortens an AE’s life. Back to normal - happy for it.


Thanks for that, LaPastenague.


Tom

Mar 31, 2021 12:44 AM in response to Tom Meade1

I bought the HomeKit versions with security - but they were flaky


You cannot win sometimes.. Homekit will doubtless improve as Apple puts more effort into it.. and manufacturers get firmware better, but it is difficult to keep IP switches online.

I bought a bunch of cheap ones and flashed to Tasmota firmware. To avoid exactly the issue of needing an app based in China. Though it was a lot more difficult than it should have been to flash. It now works very well.. but it needed major changes to the 2.4ghz network to help out.

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