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How can I confirm there is no malware on my MacBook?

How can I confirm there is no additional malware on my computer? I have installed the latest version of macOS Big Sur. This version found 3 files that were suspicious and I moved them to trash? Is there anything else I need to do?? I was hacked yesterday by a malicious company that posed themselves as "Norton" Support.


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Posted on May 7, 2021 9:52 AM

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Posted on May 7, 2021 4:39 PM

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May 7, 2021 1:44 PM in response to kukana2

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Apple support specifically told me “no” 3 party apps for malware checks are recommended. Now what?

This is a user-to-user support forum. If you want to restrict yourself only to Apple support, then you need to only talk to Apple support. Otherwise, they are going to be telling you one thing, and we will be telling you something else. You will annoy Apple support if you ignore their advice and do what people on the internet tell you. By the same token, you will annoy us when you refuse to follow our advice.


I don't know what you mean by "found 3 files that were suspicious". That isn't how Apple's built-in malware detection works. If it finds something, it will pop-up a dialog saying "XYZ will damage your computer". That's a bit more extreme than "suspicious". Also, it isn't even accurate. While you certainly don't want malware, it isn't going to "damage your computer" in any way. It may steal your identity, steal your credit cards, install backdoor rootlets, ransom your files, etc., but your computer will be fine.


Also, that dialog is just one part of Apple's built-in malware protection. Taken together, all of the different layers of Apple's built-in protection are very effective. However. This is a big one. Apple always allows the user to override its protections. People who regularly find themselves being tricked into installing malware can often benefit from 3rd party anti-malware protection.


Based on the evidence presented so far, you likely fall into that category. If Apple's XProtect found 3 malware files, I estimate that you have another 7 still installed. If those 3 files were installed in the first place, then you have likely overridden other parts of Apple's security and installed malware without realizing it. To be clear, this just a guess, but I usually do see multiple malware files installed. 3rd party antivirus apps are generally twice as effective as Apple's protections.


And finally, it turns out that Apple's malware removal isn't all that good. There was a significant incident a couple of months ago where an Apple security update disabled a lot of installed malware. Unfortunately, Apple's code only partially disabled the malware. Apple's bug actually damaged people's computers more than the malware did in the first place.

May 7, 2021 1:37 PM in response to kukana2

There are two, and only two such titles just about all experienced users here will recommend.


Ronasara already provided you a link to one of them. MalwareBytes for Mac is free to use. It is also easily uninstalled from its own menu option when you're done with it.


The other is EtreCheck. This is also free to use. It's main purpose is to take a snapshot of your system. What type of hardware you have, and what software is running. After running the scan, you copy the report here so other members can see it. All personal information is automatically redacted by the app. It has been used, easily, thousands of times on this forum.

May 7, 2021 1:37 PM in response to kukana2

All I can say is that Malwarebytes has never caused a single problem to best of anyone's knowledge here. When it comes to antivirus apps, that is a whole different story. They all will definitely slow down your computer and they will often cause other problems as well. I would not recommend it if I don't use it myself. You have to decide for yourself.

May 7, 2021 3:31 PM in response to etresoft

I truly appreciate everyone’s advice and knowledge since I am not a techie. All your responses were super helpful and I am now more educated than ever before about malware. I thought I was somewhat tech savvy but apparently I am not at all. I love this forum and do not intended to damage any of our communications. Thanks for your useful detailed advice and will look to this community for further problem solving sessions with my Mac. My biggest concern now and a very important one. I plan to buy a new computer and concerned my old computer may have malware still on it. How can I make sure it is clean? I assume to use both apps you recommended to scrub it. Thanks again!

May 7, 2021 4:22 PM in response to kukana2

kukana2 wrote:

I plan to buy a new computer and concerned my old computer may have malware still on it. How can I make sure it is clean? I assume to use both apps you recommended to scrub it. Thanks again!

There is nothing you need to do to the new computer. When you first turn it on, it will be free of any malware.


If you don't remove the malware from the old computer, you will not be able to restore your data to the new computer. You would need to setup your account from scratch. You can sign in to your iCloud account, but that is as far as you can go.

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