Apple Diagnostics is not available to my MBP

My 2010 MBP, running MacOS 10.13.6 High Sierra, cannot access either Apple Hardware Test or Apple Diagnostics. Startup with ‘D’ shows only internet operation. Choosing that and my network results in an error dialog in a few seconds - Apple -3403D. The only option is a forced shutdown. An Option D start gives the same result.


How can I run diagnostics on this machine?

MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.13

Posted on May 23, 2021 5:15 AM

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Posted on May 23, 2021 4:24 PM

Try connecting the laptop directly to the router using an Ethernet cable for a faster more reliable network connection which also bypasses any possible WiFi issues which are extremely hard to troubleshoot. The online Apple Diagnostics leverages the same framework as Internet Recovery Mode.


If you get an error with a line something like "couldn't find /EFI/Test_Support.efi", then that is a known error due to Apple breaking things with the firmware and the boot file on their remote server which Apple never fixed for some systems.


You can access the old Apple Hardware Test images here:

https://github.com/upekkha/AppleHardwareTest


In theory you should be able to use Disk Utility Restore to create the bootable USB drive (should be instructions contained within the downloaded .dmg file). If the "Restore" doesn't work, then use the instructions contained with that link.

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May 23, 2021 4:24 PM in response to artysan

Try connecting the laptop directly to the router using an Ethernet cable for a faster more reliable network connection which also bypasses any possible WiFi issues which are extremely hard to troubleshoot. The online Apple Diagnostics leverages the same framework as Internet Recovery Mode.


If you get an error with a line something like "couldn't find /EFI/Test_Support.efi", then that is a known error due to Apple breaking things with the firmware and the boot file on their remote server which Apple never fixed for some systems.


You can access the old Apple Hardware Test images here:

https://github.com/upekkha/AppleHardwareTest


In theory you should be able to use Disk Utility Restore to create the bootable USB drive (should be instructions contained within the downloaded .dmg file). If the "Restore" doesn't work, then use the instructions contained with that link.

May 23, 2021 6:15 AM in response to artysan

artysan wrote:

My 2010 MBP, running MacOS 10.13.6 High Sierra, cannot access either Apple Hardware Test or Apple Diagnostics

Thank you for the reply. I administer many Apple computers and maintain external startup partitions for every OS from Mountain Lion thru Mojave. Is there any way I can add Apple Diagnostics to these partitions? I can’t run to the Apple Store every time I come across what I suspect might be a hardware issue.



Your 2010 is on the obsolete list.


To run the AHT/Diagnostic, Make sure that your Mac isn't using a firmware password.

as outlined:https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202731



Is your issue confined to this one machine or across your entire fleet of your managed Macs?


If you are using an Enterprise Network configuration ref: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210060


Apple diagnostics—




May 23, 2021 6:44 AM in response to artysan

artysan wrote:

Thanks leroydouglas.

I’m not surprised about the ‘obsolete’ designation. Ironically, it’s the older machines which most need this kind of attention. Kernel panics and crashes which persist after installing a brand new boot SSD and clean OS leave me needing to know if an issue is serviceable or not, $-wise. This is a regular part of my workflow.

My description applied to this one specific machine only. I checked for firmware password, it is not using one.

I truly appreciate the links and notes.

Peter




As you know —Kernel Panics are predominately caused by hardware faults or faulty third-party kernel extensions.


Learn what to do if your computer restarts or shuts down unexpectedly, or you get a message that your computer restarted or shut down because of a problem.

If your Mac spontaneously restarts or displays a ... - Apple Support

 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT200553



alternative in trouble shooting software and possible hardware issues—

To get a good look at your System config. and reveal conflicts or issues, you can download/run this trusted utility https://etrecheck.com  



May 23, 2021 5:08 PM in response to artysan

You suspect correctly; once you do an EFI update to allow recovery, your disks will no longer work. I did some extensive testing and found that on my 2010 iMac, (internet) recovery would not work 5 out of 6 times and the install disks no longer worked either. The only thing that worked at the time was my bootable clone I had made previously - booting into that, wiping the internal disk, and cloning back my OS was the only thing that worked reliably.

May 23, 2021 6:01 AM in response to kaz-k

Thank you for the reply. I administer many Apple computers and maintain external startup partitions for every OS from Mountain Lion thru Mojave. Is there any way I can add Apple Diagnostics to these partitions? I can’t run to the Apple Store every time I come across what I suspect might be a hardware issue.


Thanks, kaz-k.

May 23, 2021 6:31 AM in response to leroydouglas

Thanks leroydouglas.


I’m not surprised about the ‘obsolete’ designation. Ironically, it’s the older machines which most need this kind of attention. Kernel panics and crashes which persist after installing a brand new boot SSD and clean OS leave me needing to know if an issue is serviceable or not, $-wise. This is a regular part of my workflow.


My description applied to this one specific machine only. I checked for firmware password, it is not using one.


I truly appreciate the links and notes.


Peter

May 23, 2021 5:01 PM in response to babowa

Hi babowa,


I have that media and it doesn’t work. Apple calls it the Applications Install Disk and there is a document on it with explicit directions for use, that lead nowhere. The disk does not contain any boot partition so that’s a dead end as well. The ‘D’ key trick - with the media mounted as directed - results in Internet Recovery screen, followed by a network select screen, followed by an error screen -3403D, from which the only escape is a force shutdown. I have tried this on two identical MacBook Pro 7,1 machines with the same outcome. I installed each with 10.13.6 which does an EFI update. I suspect that updated firmware is incompatible with any use of the hardware test.


Your reply is very much appreciated.

Peter

May 23, 2021 7:30 PM in response to babowa

Just an oh by the way, one of these 6,2 MPB is a personal machine used for dev, Pro Tools, CAD and a motley bunch of apps. I have 4 boot partitions: 10.8.5; 10.10.5; 10.13.6; and a Windows 10 in Parallels. All works perfectly on that machine. A literal twin of it was in for service that I had updated to 10.13.6 alone. That machine has a mystery flaw. I’ll try building a Diagnostics bootable tomorrow.


Thanks everyone for confirming the troubles I experienced.

Peter

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