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Podcasts on iOS 14.6, serious loading issues

I've waited 24 hours to lodge a complaint, just in case the performance issues cleared up after the first day.


Many parts of the Podcasts app are loading very, very slowly. I have been testing the app in the same room as my router, so I am fairly certain that the bad performance is definitely the fault of the app itself and not a poor internet connection. I have force closed all other apps except Podcasts, and I've power cycled the phone.


When navigating to Library, I've found myself counting just to get a rough estimate of the load times. Just now after power cycling my phone, it took at least 12-13 seconds to display the Podcast Library page. This is not the only slow load time, either. Sometimes, I'll tap a downloaded episode that I had previously paused, and it can take somewhere between 15-30 seconds just to begin playing. The app provides no indication that audio is loading. Even when it plays, sometimes the UI doesn't update so I can't see how far into the podcast I am. After playing begins, sometimes it is unresponsive to other presses so I've also gotten stuck listening to the wrong podcast while waiting for the 'pause' to take effect, which again can take somewhere in the 10-30 second range. Even the page that loads the individual episodes for a particular podcast also has some significant load time in the vicinity of 5-10 seconds, which seems strange because I would assume a lot of these lists should be cached by now.

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Posted on Jun 6, 2021 9:40 AM

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Posted on Jun 6, 2021 1:40 PM

Apple Discussions is a user-to-use your knowledge sharing forum and, as you can see, we are all sharing some of the pain with the Podcasts app upgrade. The best bet is for all to submit problems and suggestions to Apple at Apple Feedback, https://www.apple.com/feedback/apple-podcasts/


The iOS 14.5 & 14.6 Apple Podcasts app upgrades are still bug-ridden. I’m sorry podcast users have had to serve as guinea pigs for such a flawed versions, it doesn’t make sense to invest time trying to answer questions about such an unpredictable piece of software.


On the Apple Podcasts Server side new episodes for some Shows are listed three days after they are available on TuneIn, Stitcher, SoundCloud, etc.


On the Apple Podcasts app side:

• the app gets stuck in loading mode with some users when first opened,

• Episodes sometimes mark themselves as played after just a few seconds,

• some Shows do not list the most recent unplayed episodes even when the Show settings are chosen to do so.

• Station lists sometimes do not list unplayed episodes available in Show lists, even though the Station settings do not limit episodes,

• some users experience difficulty deleting episodes from lists,

• some episodes download once in Show lists, others simply do not, even the toggle for Automatic Downloads in Show settings is On,

• the app causes a heating problem and excessive battery draining, particularly when select other apps are open in the background or foreground,

• a change in key default settings in the iOS 14.5 Podcasts app upgrade caused numerous unwanted automatic downloads in Shows with tens or hundreds of episodes.


Hopefully, some heads have rolled for those responsible, clearer thinking people have replaced them and the bugs will be straightened out soon. Apple is an excellent company which has made this experience frustrate us more.

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Jun 25, 2021 2:11 AM in response to MirrorLake

Glad to hear I'm not alone.


It's definitely the app, not Wifi or router issues (on the same iPhone, at the same time and same location, the podcasts I subscribe to on BBC Sounds, for example, appear instantly, as they used to on the Podcasts app.


Apart from the complaint that you can't really delete a podcast that you are not interested in listening to (only mark it 'played' and select hide played podcasts, which is bothersome but not insurmountable, the slowness of the load is terrible.

I'm not even talking about how many days after a podcast drops does it show up in the feed - it's that when you open 'Latest Episodes' or even 'Downloads' (which are of course already local on the device), it takes over 2 minutes to load just the titles (and then I haven't even started to listen to one or download it).


I hope this gets fixed soon, I've used Apple (first iTunes, then Podcast app) since 2005, the earliest days of podcasting, and I'm about to give up and go to another app for listening to podcasts. It's infuriating that something that used to work well should become unusuable due to an iOS update.

Jun 25, 2021 2:13 AM in response to MirrorLake

Also, when you move from one podcast to the next, it takes the visual over 20 seconds to change over to show the new one, even though the new one is already playing. This is also the case if you paused or resumed, so effectively you can't do anything such as rewind or fast forward during that period when the player is still showing the previous status of the podcast.

Jun 26, 2021 7:13 AM in response to jasonspaceman

I never used Apple Music but used to use iTunes for all podcasts, music and TV/films. I can only speak to the Podcasts app on iPhone, and have on recommendation from users here now tried Pocket Casts, and love it.

It is not only the downloading times that are terrible on iOS 14.6, but also the inability to remove podcasts (other than by selecting 'mark as played') that one does not wish to listen to. The 'follow' instead of 'subscribe' function may be at fault here.

By the way, after I removed almost all my 'follows' from the Apple Podcast app, leaving only a few legacy podcasts there, it is still just a slow to load/change from play to pause, etc., as it was when I hand 50+ podcasts on it. So it's not even the volume that is causing the slowdown. All those podcasts are now on Pocket Casts, and it loads instantly!

On a related note, I notice that when I go to Settings - General - iPhone Storage, and want to see the volume of GB used and the relative 'category sizes' (photos, files, apps..), it shows the no. of GB right away but no longer loads the colour-coded bar that shows the proportions of types of usage. This suggests that the problem is something to do with most reload/refresh functions.

I have an iPhone SE (1 year old), but all these apps worked perfectly until 10 days ago when iOS updated to 14.6.

Jun 26, 2021 10:44 AM in response to MirrorLake

I have had the same issues since the 14.6 update. It takes a long time (around 10 seconds sometimes more) for the different sections of the main podcast screen to load. Sometimes the podcast that is currently playing at the bottom of the screen does not show up. The bottom section just shows “not playing.”

what I have found usually gets things straightened up is to open the library (this can take awhile to complete- sometimes 10sec, sometimes 2 min).

once the library open an I can view my “shows,” (which can have another delay), I then will see the currently playing podcast at the bottom of the screen and every thing seems to work fine after that.

I definitely saw a frustrating change in the podcast app since the 14.6 update.

Has anyone tried deleting the podcast app and reinstalling it? I was thinking of doing that, but I didn’t want to possibly lose the information as to which podcasts I have already played.

Jun 29, 2021 6:17 AM in response to MirrorLake

The performance is sooo bad. I decided to upgrade to the latest iPad Air and it was no better, so it’s definitely not the theory my husband had that Apple degrades performance purposely to get you to upgrade your device lol.


anyway it drives me bananas, how long I have to wait for the app to load, for the library to display, for the queue list to display, for the play/pause to respond.

Jun 29, 2021 7:39 AM in response to MirrorLake

Thanks to cyberbiker for the link. I lodged a complaint. Listening to podcasts is so important to me and the latest version of Apple podcasts is unusable. Takes forever to load and I can't find my unplayed episodes I've painstakingly selected to listen to, among other things.


Have any of you had luck with another podcast app? I'd love your advice which one to switch to. I've had trouble with the Apple podcast app off and on over the years which made me consider switching, but I invested in my library the switching costs are so high I never did.


But this time the Apple messed it up so badly and I lost all my data on unplayed episodes so I don't have much to lose anymore. I thunk it's time to find another app. I welcome your input!

Jun 29, 2021 8:39 AM in response to sharkfluffer

Based on some recommendations on this forum, I've switched to Pocket Casts, which I love. I had first tried Castro, which I didn't like, but this one is similar enough to the look and feel and functionalities to the formerly good Apple Podcast app that the transition was very smooth! Apple should learn ... if it ain't broke...

Jun 29, 2021 12:14 PM in response to MirrorLake

I've switched over to Overcast for the last few weeks since the issues began. After an adjustment period, I've found it to be intuitive and easier to use than the stock app.


My big disappointment here is that the stock Podcast app is dead. Entirely unusable. It scares me to think that Apple has not pushed out a patch or anything--I can only imagine the uproar if Calendar broke for a month, or the Mail app. So now most of us have migrated to apps with advertising. Those of us who want an ad-free experience have to pay for it, and that means that Apple gets to take a percentage of our in-app purchases and so they're actually making more money from this screw-up.


Gross.

Jun 29, 2021 4:11 PM in response to sharkfluffer

Hi @sharkfluffer,

There are plenty of apps that seem to do the trick for your podcast fix. Lots of suggestions on this thread. I jumped on Acast from an earlier suggestion, which allowed me to transfer my library (in part) across, a bit of time needed to tidy up. I also used Spotify so that I could a least listen to a podcast until this mess was sorted out.

I'm a little dumbfounded with Apple that there doesn't seem to be any urgency to fix it, as this thread continues to grow. Not my style, but I'm now starting to think there may be another reason for Apple to push people to other Podcast Apps. Credit where credit due to them, it has worked, at the expense to customer experience! I also wonder if podcast show providers (at a cost for some subscriptions) are aware of this issue. I hope this helps.

Jun 29, 2021 7:18 PM in response to MirrorLake

I waited more than 2 minutes to load library this morning. And then even longer to load shows. I don’t know why it forces me back home opening podcast anyway. Just let me open back up where I was without loading whatever it is it’s loading. I’ve used it for years and it’s never been this not useable. There are plenty of apps out there that are better I’m sure but I don’t want to have to change but I guess I will

Podcasts on iOS 14.6, serious loading issues

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