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Lossless Apple music on PC

Will paying users be able to listen to Apple music in lossless quality on their computer? Because if there is no such option, it is discrimination for those who do not have an Apple device, yet you can pay for your Apple music service without it.

Windows, Windows 10

Posted on Jun 11, 2021 8:22 AM

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Jul 1, 2021 11:21 AM in response to stano276

Last response as you seem to have a tenuous grasp of the word discrimination, and how you are offered exactly the same service as everyone else. I have a Mac. If I listen on Mac, I get lossless. If you listen on Mac, you get lossless. You have a PC. If you listen on PC, you don’t get lossless. If I listen on PC, I don’t get lossless. Therefore the exact same service is offered to both of us. Just because your device does not support a feature being offered, does not mean you are being offered something different. You are free to choose any device you like.


It’s like saying that Sony are discriminating against PS4 users by offering PS5 games on PS+, when you don’t own a PS5. The service is the same for everyone. You just need a compatible device.


I hope this helps. As I said. I will not be responding any further. The app is on its way to PC. If you can’t wait, you are free to use a compatible device, or subscribe to a lossless service that is compatible with you device.


But to answer your original post, yes you will, but not yet.

Jul 24, 2021 7:55 AM in response to stano276

Thanks to the rollout of Apple Music Lossless on Android, you can now listen to Apple Music Lossless through an android emulator like Bluestacks or Android Studio.


It works well but I don't know if this is going to support Dolby Atmos in the future tho but for now this is a good backup while we wait for Apple to hopefully add Apple Music Lossless and Spatial Audio support on iTunes or maybe release a new Apple Music app for Windows.

Jul 1, 2021 8:58 AM in response to PapaKilo84

if the functions offered by the service are not the same across the devices, there is discrimination and therefore I asked when the format will be lossless on the PC. Because I mainly use Apple music on a PC. And it is completely irrelevant that some feature came into service for free. Apple music is on a PC and the lossless format should be there as well, and I want to know when it will be. That is all.

Jul 1, 2021 12:54 PM in response to PapaKilo84

Currently, the situation is such that subscribers who do not own an apple product are disadvantaged and that is a fact. iTunes is capable of converting CDs to ALAC format on a PC and playing them, so there should be no reason to limit the ALAC format to Apple devices only. And the difference between ALAC and AAC is huge, at least for me. I just don't understand why it's not on the PC, especially if they have apple music for web browsers as well.

Jul 6, 2021 1:51 PM in response to roehlstation

How do we know? The albums are not displayed as "lossless or Hi Res", there is no indication of what format you are listening to. Am I to go on faith that Apple is delivering the highest quality? Sorry I need proof. For what is is worth I have an un-used ipad, I connected an external DAC and connected to my pure Class A HiFi and I do hear the difference. Since I am not going to hear the difference (IMO) in my car or with Headphones I am not worried about it too much, and $14.99 for a family plan who can beat that?

Jul 8, 2021 12:29 PM in response to stano276

I too would like to see the lossless and hi-res formats now included with an Apple Music subscription accessible via my Windows PC versus the compressed 256 AAC format. Our family has iphones and Ipads and I can hear an audible quality difference with Apple Music in their new lossless and hi-res settings, using an external DAC and decent headphones with those devices. By comparison, when I listen to Apple Music via my Windows PC in their only available lossy format, it sounds much lower quality to me. Since I'm paying the same subscription price as both Windows PC and Mac users, why does Apple not make the new features (free or not) available to PC users? The new features are now part of the expected, overall feature set and for some, part of the decision whether to subscribe to Apple Music or some other lossless or hi res service, including Amazon HD Music, which by the way, offers lossless and hi res and as far as I know, is "device neutral".


Jul 19, 2021 4:30 PM in response to stano276

Spatial Audio and Lossless audio is propriety to specific devices and headphones used. Only a few devices and headphones can take advantage of it and all are owned by Apple. Just because you have MAC or iPhone does not mean you will have access to them either.


I think what everyone wants lossless music that is not tied to a specific platform. Apple is known to tie software and hardware together. Time will tell I guess.



Jul 22, 2021 1:29 PM in response to stano276

Depends on how you're going to listen - from browser almost sure it will not be lossless (most probably AAC 16bit/44.1KHz (?)). From iTunes you have the option to adjust bit depth / sampling frequency according to the audio settings of your audio card.

I do have an external DAC - which I configure at 24bit/48Khz as majority of Apple library is not even that hi-res, in order to avoid oversampling - and set iTunes to same config. But not 100% sure iTunes "receives" at hi-res - as it doesn't give any info about the file being played. Hope this helps.

Aug 4, 2021 8:52 AM in response to nwtobin

nwtobin, that's a completely different thing! That preferences option refers to the audio device on the PC that plays back the audio to your speakers. It doesn't have anything to do with the audio format coming to you via Apple Music. On PC, all Apple Music tracks are still always LOSSY (ABR 256 kbps AAC).


Like I said, the settings in the preferences are for the software audio device that plays back the audio. That is basically always set to CD or DVD settings. Notice I said "settings" and not "quality"! That's because everything you listen to on your PC is converted to PCM/WAV just before it is played back through your speakers. Even when you listen to your MP3s in your MP3 player on Windows, the audio is converted by the player to WAV and then sent to your speakers. That doesn't mean your speakers play lossless audio. They can't, since you're playing MP3s. What comes INTO the player is important. If that's lossless then output will also be genuinely lossless. If what's coming in is lossy (as is the case with Apple Music on PC) then what comes out will also be lossy!

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