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Why wont the first generation pencil work with the new M1 iPad pro’s the tips are the same

Why won’t the Apple Pencil first generation work with the newer models of iPads that just recently came out as of this year

Posted on Jun 21, 2021 10:35 PM

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Posted on Jun 22, 2021 2:52 AM

Pencil tips are not the issue…


The first and second generation Pencil use an entirely different pairing and charging interface. The second generation Pencil can only be used with iPad models that have the magnetic/inductive dock that is exclusively designed for the Pencil. Charging is controlled via the iPad magnetic dock; the second generation Pencil cannot be charged using external charging solutions.


The first generation Apple Pencil, not compatible with the 2018/2020/2021 models of iPad Pro, uses the physical Lightning port for both pairing and charging the first generation Pencil. This pencil can only be used with compatible iPad models that have a Lightning connector.


In summary, the Apple Pencil models are not interchangeable - and can only be used with the iPad that has appropriate internal hardware.


Here is the definitive compatibility list for Apple Pencil and iPad:


Apple Pencil (2nd generation)

You can use Apple Pencil (2nd generation) with these iPad models: 

  • iPad Air (4th generation)
  • iPad Pro 12.9-inch (3rd generation) and later
  • iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation) and later


Apple Pencil (1st generation)

You can use Apple Pencil (1st generation) with these iPad models:

  • iPad (8th generation)
  • iPad mini (5th generation)
  • iPad (7th generation)
  • iPad (6th generation)
  • iPad Air (3rd generation)
  • iPad Pro 12.9-inch (1st or 2nd generation)
  • iPad Pro 10.5-inch
  • iPad Pro 9.7-inch


Not sure which iPad you have? Identify your iPad model.


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Jun 22, 2021 2:52 AM in response to vincentfromvirginia beach

Pencil tips are not the issue…


The first and second generation Pencil use an entirely different pairing and charging interface. The second generation Pencil can only be used with iPad models that have the magnetic/inductive dock that is exclusively designed for the Pencil. Charging is controlled via the iPad magnetic dock; the second generation Pencil cannot be charged using external charging solutions.


The first generation Apple Pencil, not compatible with the 2018/2020/2021 models of iPad Pro, uses the physical Lightning port for both pairing and charging the first generation Pencil. This pencil can only be used with compatible iPad models that have a Lightning connector.


In summary, the Apple Pencil models are not interchangeable - and can only be used with the iPad that has appropriate internal hardware.


Here is the definitive compatibility list for Apple Pencil and iPad:


Apple Pencil (2nd generation)

You can use Apple Pencil (2nd generation) with these iPad models: 

  • iPad Air (4th generation)
  • iPad Pro 12.9-inch (3rd generation) and later
  • iPad Pro 11-inch (1st generation) and later


Apple Pencil (1st generation)

You can use Apple Pencil (1st generation) with these iPad models:

  • iPad (8th generation)
  • iPad mini (5th generation)
  • iPad (7th generation)
  • iPad (6th generation)
  • iPad Air (3rd generation)
  • iPad Pro 12.9-inch (1st or 2nd generation)
  • iPad Pro 10.5-inch
  • iPad Pro 9.7-inch


Not sure which iPad you have? Identify your iPad model.


Why wont the first generation pencil work with the new M1 iPad pro’s the tips are the same

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