Stabilization causing render hangups?

Hello all. Running FCPX 10.5.3 on a 3.2ghz 6-core i7 Mac Mini and a similar i9 MBP. In Final Cut Pro, I have projects that won't export without rendering any clip with stabilization turned on. My problem is, when I try to render, the renders often do not complete, and I have to sit there and continually ask it to either 'Render All' or 'Render Selection' (happens in either scenario), which is very time consuming considering many of my projects are more than 2 hours long.


I have background render turned off (should I turn it on? I hate the idea of large render files eating up scratch disk space when not needed).


I only need to apparently render for any clip with stabilization turned on in order to export my projects.


Is there something I can do so when I command FXP to 'Render All', for example, it'll do indeed just that?


Is there another workaround or function I should be trying?

Posted on Jul 28, 2021 9:50 AM

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Posted on Jul 29, 2021 3:40 PM

Where did this footage that needs to be stabilized come from? Please open it in QuickTime player and post a screen shot of the Get Info window.


An easy thing to try is resetting the FCP preferences. Hold command and option while launching FCP and choose Delete Preferences. It will open a default Untitled library. Open the library you were working on, set the prefs back to the way you like them and see if there's any improvement.


If there's something unusual or broken about this media, you might try to Optimize one of the problem clips (right-click or control-click and choose Transcode Media...). This will create a large ProRes file so make sure you've got available disk space. Then try the stabilizing this clip in it's own project and see if it will export without rendering.

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Jul 29, 2021 3:40 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Where did this footage that needs to be stabilized come from? Please open it in QuickTime player and post a screen shot of the Get Info window.


An easy thing to try is resetting the FCP preferences. Hold command and option while launching FCP and choose Delete Preferences. It will open a default Untitled library. Open the library you were working on, set the prefs back to the way you like them and see if there's any improvement.


If there's something unusual or broken about this media, you might try to Optimize one of the problem clips (right-click or control-click and choose Transcode Media...). This will create a large ProRes file so make sure you've got available disk space. Then try the stabilizing this clip in it's own project and see if it will export without rendering.

Jul 28, 2021 10:14 AM in response to Matt13

That usually means it’s running the analysis for the stabilization. There may be a fault if nothing is happening in background tasks. Forcing it to render might do it, but the render files might get lost in the process, as often seems to be the case. I would close the application and go into the library bundle and remove the existing analysis files to see if you can force it to run the analysis correctly.

Jul 28, 2021 10:18 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

I've noticed that, too. If I do render, then close the program and come back, it'll show it's not rendered (double-whammy).


When you say 'library bundle', I assume you mean the project file (the purple icon with four stars). IE... control click the Library File, then >Show Package Contents>Event Name (event name being whatever you named your event file)>Analysis Files.


Trash 'Analysis Files'?


This might all seem obvious, but might help out somebody else that stumbles on this.

Jul 28, 2021 10:08 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

I get the error message: "Background tasks are not yet complete. If you continue, these effects may be missing or have reduced quality: Stabilization".


Meanwhile... there are no background tasks running. So if I can manage to render the clips with stabilization turned on, then I have no problem exporting. My problem is, the renders stop on their own, forcing me to render the same timeline over and over and over again, until it completes.

Jul 28, 2021 10:24 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

Roger that. When I go into that folder, there's another folder for 'Stabilization'. So I bet you're onto something.


I also just noticed that there's an update for FCP (10.5.4). I'm doing that on the mini... so I can't test it there quite yet. But just deleted that file on the MBP and successfully exported a shorter file with stabilization turned on (where I couldn't before the rendering). So, I think you're definitely onto something!




Jul 29, 2021 3:17 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Welp... it appears I got lucky yesterday trying a test on that shorter video (4 minutes long) by removing the Analysis files. I was able to export it without even rendering the stabilization effects.


But I've been trying to export longer videos (1-2 hours long) after trying this possible solution, and I'm back to the same problems. Renders will not complete... stop abruptly... have to keep forcing the project to render over and over again. Project won't export without rendering all stabilization effects, and if I try, I get that warning message about background tasks... even though there doesn't appear to be any background tasks being performed.


I know it may be a mystery to us, Tom, but maybe somebody else will see this and know a solution... or the FCPX team will catch wind of it and fix it in a future update. What's the link to the 'suggestion' form that can be sent to the FCPX team? I can explain it there.


I'll attach the warning message I get when trying to export a project that isn't rendered with stabilization effects in it... along with another screenshot of what I get right before that. It's a progress bar that runs for about a minute before it gives the the background tasks warning message.


Finally, I'll try exporting one of these videos by hitting 'continue', without rendering, and see if it makes any difference. For all I know, they may very well export just fine with the stabilization effects functioning properly and this is just a glitch that can be ignored.


Will report back if that's the case.

Jul 29, 2021 4:17 PM in response to terryb

Thanks for the reply, Terry!


The footage isn't anything unusual. Standard 1900x1080 MPEG-4 files directly from Canon video cameras (XA-50, EOS-R6). I also utilize AVCHD footage (1900x1080) from Canon XA-10's. When I import, I always optimize, everything. So all of my footage is already transcoded. I've been a FCP user since it's inception... not my first rodeo, lol. Regardless of the source video (AVCHD or MPEG-4), this problem persists when trying to export.


I will give resetting preferences a try... didn't think of that! Thank you.





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