M1 or Intel for Logic Pro X

Background: My 21-year-old son has had his MacBook Air since 2014. He uses it primarily for recording and producing music using Logic Pro X. He is still running High Serra. His computer is starting to flake out and things are beginning to give him problems. He needs a new computer. This time around I think he needs a MacBook Pro (not an Air). He will also be using Final Cut Pro X (we own both).


Looking at the new 13" macs, I can't figure out if the M1 8 core is better than the i5 quad-core Intel. One weird thing is the M1 macs only have 2 Thunderbolt ports. WTH? How much would it cost Apple to add 4 ports on all their MacBook Pros?


My plan is to get him 16GB RAM and 1T SSD. What do you all think? Suggest I get?

MacBook Pro (2020 and later)

Posted on Sep 23, 2021 4:18 PM

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Posted on Sep 24, 2021 4:49 AM

Hi,

Many people working with the new M1 macs report great performance with Logic and Final Cut BUT there is one major issue: Compatibility with third party applications. Many third party vendors are lagging with their native support for the M1 platform ( and Big Sur ). They will get there eventually but if your son has mission critical MIDI devices and plugins he needs to make sure they are fully supported and working either with Rosetta 2 ( not he best option) or natively.

If he gets an M1 I recommend that he does not migrate to the new computer from the old one but manually moves his files. A migration can bring legacy junk and clutter that will cause head aches.

As for the ports thunderbolt can be daisy chained on some devices and there are all sorts of great hubs to expand ports while managing power.

Hope this helps.

Don

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Sep 24, 2021 4:49 AM in response to Alfredo Jahn

Hi,

Many people working with the new M1 macs report great performance with Logic and Final Cut BUT there is one major issue: Compatibility with third party applications. Many third party vendors are lagging with their native support for the M1 platform ( and Big Sur ). They will get there eventually but if your son has mission critical MIDI devices and plugins he needs to make sure they are fully supported and working either with Rosetta 2 ( not he best option) or natively.

If he gets an M1 I recommend that he does not migrate to the new computer from the old one but manually moves his files. A migration can bring legacy junk and clutter that will cause head aches.

As for the ports thunderbolt can be daisy chained on some devices and there are all sorts of great hubs to expand ports while managing power.

Hope this helps.

Don

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Sep 23, 2021 6:49 PM in response to octopi

octopi wrote:

In that case, get an M1 MacBook Pro (16gig ram, minimum 512gig HD) with a docking station for the missing ports.

Apple are coding everything, apps, OS with Apple Silicon in mind. Intel and x86 coding hasn't been abandoned but I think the end of Intel code will come sooner than expected.

Are there any issues with non-Apple applications using the M1? Like I said, his main applications are Logic Pro X and Final Cut Pro, so those are good. Are there any other issues? He would need 1TB SSD, but that price is still $100 less than the same Intel laptop. Why the heck does Apple only put 2 ports on the M1s? Are they trying to sell more Intels?


Sep 23, 2021 4:41 PM in response to Alfredo Jahn

Bad timing on buying laptops. Apple are about to launch, any time from october to end of November, new 14inch and 16inch MacBook Pros with maybe newer versions of the Apple Silicon chips and maybe more ports.


I'd wait a couple of months if I was in the market for a new laptop. Even if you didn't go for the Apple Silicon one, the intel ones may drop in price.

Sep 25, 2021 9:29 AM in response to Jan Due1

Jan Due1 wrote:

If you are running Logic/Final Cut only, no third party plugins, M1 is the way.

I have a Mini M1(16Gb) and a Mini Intel i7 (16Gb)
I have a ton of third party plugins, so with the M1, it's Rosetta 2.

When I compare: I'll go back to the Intel Mini, if it's for serious work.
Rosetta isn't good enough!....And the vendors are really slow to
adapt their plugins natively to M1 (give me a list!)

The M1 is the future. It doesn't get hot...Best bang for the buck is MacBook Air.

He loves his Logic plugins which are Ozone 8 and Waves J37 and dbx-160. We definitely want a Pro and not an Air for the kind of work he does. If it was for me, I could work through the issues, but for him, I want things to be as easy as possible to set up. He will most likely keep his old computer for a while, so he doesn't have to move everything over, but he does use Logic Pro X, Final Cut Pro X, 1Password, ExpressVPN, and Chrome. My biggest worry is the older plugins listed above. Might be easier for him to stay with the Intel for ease of use. I'm sure he would love to double the battery time, but the last thing I want is for him to struggle setting it all up. If I have to run Logic in Rosetta mode just to get the plugins to run more efficiently, maybe Intel is best for the time being?

Sep 24, 2021 5:31 PM in response to Alfredo Jahn

If you are running Logic/Final Cut only, no third party plugins, M1 is the way.


I have a Mini M1(16Gb) and a Mini Intel i7 (16Gb)

I have a ton of third party plugins, so with the M1, it's Rosetta 2.


When I compare: I'll go back to the Intel Mini, if it's for serious work.

Rosetta isn't good enough!....And the vendors are really slow to

adapt their plugins natively to M1 (give me a list!)


The M1 is the future. It doesn't get hot...Best bang for the buck is MacBook Air.


Sep 25, 2021 1:54 PM in response to Alfredo Jahn

I don't think Ozone 8 will run in Rosetta mode, Ozone 9 will...


To clarify my point, comparing intel with M1, in my experience.

If in Rosetta mode my M1 performs equal to my intel computer.

The M1 being a little less stable. Strange things happen now and then.

Probably due to third party plugin problems. In general it works fine.

The M1will be a lot more powerful when Rosetta is no longer needed.


AFAIK

Apart from the entry level MacBook Air, MacBook Air/ Pro and MacMini all perform the same.

Main difference: MB Air doesn't have a fan. But the M1 doesn't get hot. So why a fan?

And of course if you really need the Touch Bar, then go for the MB Pro.

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