Music Playlist order on iPhone different than MacBook Pro

I have a regular playlist (not a smart one) called "Dance - to be rated" in Music on my MacBook Pro. It is sorted by "Album by Artist", but when I sync it to my iPhone, the order is different. I have tried right-clicking playlist name on my computer and selecting "copy to playlist order" and resyncing, and that did not help. I also tried removing the playlist completely from my phone and then resyncing to put it back, hoping it would appear back in the same "Album by Artist" order, but it's still different! Any other suggestions I should try? Thanks.

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Running Big Sur 11.6 on a 2018 MBP

Running iOS15 on an iPhone 12Pro

MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 11.6

Posted on Sep 26, 2021 5:54 AM

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Posted on Mar 18, 2022 6:23 AM

Thank you, José440, this is the solution. Puuuh, that was finally time! (Shame on Apple to not give us a much simpler solution. Not what I was used to from Apple in the last 30 years that I use Apple) So here I give you some more details:


  1. True, you have to do this to every single playlist. :(
  2. If you have your playlist ALREADY checked in the view tab "as Songs" (deutsch: "als Titel") Josés solution won't work automatically. Then you have to choose first any other view, e.g. "as Album" and then choose again "as Songs". AFTER doing so, you have to again goto >view tag >Sort by >Title (or however you want to sort). These changes were automatically reflected on my iOS devices iPhone and iPad (if you have internet connection) seconds after the change (to be sure, give it maybe a minute) without an extra sync. But depending on your software version you might need e mechanical synchronization.
  3. You can then even go back in the view tab and choose again "as Playlist" and the correct sorting method won't change back to the chaos but stay intact.
  4. This solution works also for smart playlists
  5. Another solution might be the one from HelpfulSB two posts up. A more detailed description might be found here: What does " copy to play order " actually… - Apple Community (Not checked. Let us know if it works if you do!)


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Mar 18, 2022 9:23 AM in response to deanh1234

Same issue, and this is a pretty fundamental problem for me fully adopting Apple Music. I've migrated all my playlists over from Spotify, but the fact that I do not have the ability to sort these playlists is maddening. When I follow the steps above, the sorting of the playlist on the Mac side doesn't seem to have any bearing on the iPhone end. It defaults to user order in the playlist on the Mac side. E.g. the original order of the playlist sorted Ascending. What ultimately is missing is sorting on the Apple Music app, which would then let you at least sort by artist / album / title or reverse the "manual" order either ascending / descending.

Apr 5, 2022 6:12 AM in response to deanh1234

This is so frustrating - I have a variety of smart playlists that always updated to the song order that they were in on iTunes... now, with Music, you never know what you're going to get. I've tried removing, recreating, resorting, copying to play oder, and they all seem to work... but then don't. Honestly, it seems like the iOS and MacOS teams have different ideas of what "alphabetically" means - the playlists themselves are in a different order on my phone and Music (on MacOS), which I've learned to live with, but is so stupid. I wouldn't care which way they choose to define the alphabet, I just want it to be predictable on my phone.


The solution offered by other users doesn't really seem to work for me, I have re-sorted the playlist on my computer and re-synced to my phone, and the playlist song order is still reversed or in some random order.


Weird how Apple spends so much effort trying to get me to switch/pay for Apple Music but ignores the simplest functionality and bugs that make it so I would happily pay them instead of Spotify. Spotify doesn't have smart playlists or support half the functionality of iTunes/Music, but at least it is consistent and the idea of switching only to be frustrated is totally off-putting.

Apr 6, 2022 8:18 PM in response to chinooken

Thanks but unfortunately that defeats the purpose of using a smart playlist. I have two theories - first, all the playlists that I made originally in iTunes work fine, only the new ones I created in Music give me trouble. Second, the smart playlists work for a little while them stop updating and switch to some default order - usually “most played”. I just delete and recreate the smart playlist with the same rules and use it until I have to do it again. Stupid. Apple should just give full control to other apps that care enough to give us what we want, like Marvis or Cs.

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