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4k footage in a 1080p timeline looks blurry.

I mostly shoot and edit in 1080p, but I would like to periodically shoot in 4k and use it in my 1080p projects. There are two reasons for this:


  1. I'm under the impression that downsized 4k footage can sometimes look cleaner/sharper than the same footage captured in 1080p.
  2. I would like to occasionally create high quality zooms/pans/etc. in FCPX (I know about setting "spatial conform" to "none", etc.).


I've done a bunch of experimenting and the 4k footage on a 1080p timeline appears a bit blurry/soft both when viewing in FCPX and in the final export. I've tried downsizing my original 4k footage in Compressor and it looks much better, especially when I play with the quality settings. If I take the footage downsized in Compressor and place it in the same timeline then it looks great, but that only addresses item#1 above and creates an additional step in my workflow. I'm willing to spend the extra time for better quality, but for item#2 (zooms/pans/etc.) it's not really a solution.


Below is an image that shows what I'm talking about. The original footage was shot in 4k 100Mbps. I did not create optimized media or proxy files and simply dropped the original file into a 1080p timeline. I then took the original file and downsized it to 1080p in Compressor and placed that file into the same 1080p timeline for comparison. The image below is a screenshot from the final exported video. The export settings don't make a difference since the footage looks pretty much the same regardless of settings (as long as the bitrate is above 20Mbps). For example, a ProRes export looks visually identical to H.264 20Mbps. On the left is the 4k file dropped into a 1080p timeline. On the right is the footage downsized in Compressor:



MacBook, macOS 11.6

Posted on Sep 28, 2021 8:23 AM

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Posted on Sep 28, 2021 5:28 PM

Update: I just spent over an hour on the phone with Apple Support about this. The support guy did a screen share with me and I demonstrated what is happening. He wasn't able to resolve the issue, so he is sending it off to the the techs to take a closer look. I will provide another update when I hear back from them.

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Sep 28, 2021 5:28 PM in response to ShawnStorm

Update: I just spent over an hour on the phone with Apple Support about this. The support guy did a screen share with me and I demonstrated what is happening. He wasn't able to resolve the issue, so he is sending it off to the the techs to take a closer look. I will provide another update when I hear back from them.

Sep 28, 2021 11:31 AM in response to ShawnStorm

Hmm.. Not sure why my link was "Edited by Moderator". Here is a screen shot comparison of the final exported video file that I had linked above. The difference isn't as noticeable as in my original test, probably because I used a much nicer camera for this one, but it still seems clear to me if you look closely. Also, the downsized video is actually a bit too sharp, so I would probably play with the details setting in Compressor to ease back on the sharpness a little:


Sep 28, 2021 10:34 AM in response to ShawnStorm

I did try this and my results are consistent with yours, except I think that mine are a little less noticeable - possibly because my version of 1080 clip was more compressed.


It does seem, at least with this example, that compressing the clip down to 1080p produces better results.

I will try with a different clip and see if the outcome is similar or not.

Sep 28, 2021 11:12 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Thanks for doing some testing. Much appreciated.


I just did some more testing myself, this time using a different camera (Panasonic GH5). I recorded identical footage in both 4k 100Mbps and 1080p 100Mbps. Then I dropped both files into a 1080p timeline in FCPX (same settings as before). Then I added a third clip to the timeline which is the 4k footage downsized to 1080p in Compressor. A link to the final output video is below (H.264 at 20Mbps) and I think the quality difference is clear. The 4k footage placed on the 1080p timeline looks worse than the original 1080p footage, whereas the 4k footage downsized in Compressor looks the best of all in terms of clarity and sharpness.


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4k footage in a 1080p timeline looks blurry.

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