Windows 10 Bootcamp setup Macbook Pro10,1 (Early 2013)

Hi All,


I am trying to install Windows 10 Pro x64 on a MacbookPro 10,1 (Early 2013). I have been having a few issues with the install as it keeps booting to a black screen with a blinking cursor.


I can start an EFI Boot but would rather not use EFI if possible. Does anyone know if this is possible and how to get around the black screen with blinking cursor issue?


I had a lot of issues with bootcamp creating the USB installer so I created the installer myself by using the Windows 10 ISO and then copying across the Bootcamp support files.


As I said I can get EFI Boot to run the installer but then I get all sorts of driver issues and have heard its better not to use EFI.


Any help would be gratefully appreciated. :)



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Posted on Sep 29, 2021 12:51 AM

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Oct 5, 2021 4:49 AM in response to Myatix

If you install W10 from an older ISO, and then update W10 to a newer ISO, Bootcamp also offers updated drivers. See How to use Apple Software Update for Windows - Apple Support for reference. I use W10 on a 2012 13-in MBP. It was originally install using W10 1511. and upgraded to the new W10 releases. Also, the Intel HD3k/4k GPUs can create issues, but you have a dual-GPU 15-in MBP, which may not be a factor during the initial installation. On Windows, you can only see the nVidia GPU.


My recommendation is to try an older ISO (before 1903).

Oct 4, 2021 4:41 AM in response to Loner T

Thanks for the reply again!


Yes it sounds a lot like the issue I have been having!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204923


However I am running the latest version of Catalina (10.15.7) which is the highest MacOS I can run on this machine and according to the apple support website this machine is supported to run Windows 10 in bootcamp. BUT... It doesn't!!!


As for MACHALDriver.sys I can't check the version as I cannot install Bootcamp as it results in the Mac rebooting continuously and then results in a fatal error???


But according to the Bootcamp.xml...


<Component Name="MacHALDriver.sys" GUID="*" SharedDLL="No">

<File Name="MacHALDriver.sys">

<KeyPath>yes</KeyPath>

<FileVersion>6.200.6.0</FileVersion>

</File>

</Component>


FOR YOUR INFORMATION... Doing a standard install using the bootcamp assistant results in the following issues:


Issue Number 1:

  • New USB 2.0 Key size (64GB)

Error 1: There is not enough space on the USB drive when creating the Windows installation USB. This is obviously wrong as the entire installation with drivers and windows is just over 8GB and the apple website states that only 16GB USB key is required.


Workaround: Manually format the USB using Disk Utility as ExFAT with Master Boot Record. Then Create the USB key by downloading the Windows Support files using bootcamp to the Mac's hard drive and then manually copy them to the USB drive. Then open the Windows 10 ISO and copy them to the same USB drive. So based on the fact I am using the latest version of Catalina I would expect this to work.


Issue Number 2:

  • Can only install Windows in EFI Boot.

When attempting to install Windows normally the MacBook Pro reboots having prepared the partitions in Bootcamp Assistant and a black screen loads stating cannot find media or something similar.


Workaround:

Reboot Mac then hold down Alt to select boot disk. Only option that appears is EFI Boot or MacOS. So the only option as far as I can see it is to install Windows using EFI Boot.


Issue Number 3:

  • Partition created by Bootcamp won't allow EFI Boot Install to install Windows

When you get to the point in the Windows installation where you have to choose a drive and format it you are not able to do so as you receive an error.


Workaround:

Boot back into MacOS and use Disk Utility to format the Bootcamp drive as Mac OS Extended (Journeled). Reboot hold down ALT, then choose EFI Boot and when you get to the installation step where you choose which disk/partition to install Windows on you then delete the Bootcamp partition. (Becareful to choose the correct one.) Then add a new partition using the windows installer and continue with the installation.


Issue Number 4:

  • Graphics driver causes Fatal System Error and continuous reboot.

Workaround: Rename driver causing the issue in the Bootcamp/Drivers folder to .old and then reattempt the installation by removing the bootcamp installation using Bootcamp Assistant then recreating the Bootcamp partitions and reinstalling.


Issue Number 5:

  • Bootcamp Installation after successful Windows 10 install causes continuous reboot

Workaround: Before doing anything create a restore point using Windows Recovery. Then manually install all missing drivers that appear in Device Manager by using the various folders from the Bootcamp/Drivers folder. Once you have internet connection again run Windows Update to update any old drivers that Windows has detected.


Issue Number 6:

  • Windows is successfully installed at this point but the following items are still not working. Not able to install Bootcamp resulting in right click on trackpad Trackpad not working, No backlight on keyboard, No Audio drivers.

Workaround: NONE SO FAR...


Sep 30, 2021 3:58 AM in response to Loner T

Thanks for the reply! :)

I am using macOS Catalina with the latest Windows 10 build from the Microsoft website.

I managed to get Windows 10 to install on my MacBook Pro 10,1 (early 2013) but when I try to install bootcamp to setup the touchpad and keyboard the installation caused a continuous reboot, as if one of the drivers was causing the issue.


If I manually installed the missing drivers in device manager then I had no issues, but I couldn't get right click to work or the correct keyboard layout. Those were my main issues with the EFI boot install.


I even tried installing Windows 11 and that worked as well apart from the keyboard and trackpad issue with right click again and a Windows PC without right click is not that great.

Oct 4, 2021 10:34 PM in response to Loner T

According to the support documentation on Apples website a MacBook Pro from 2012 is supported for Windows 10 installations.


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201468


Also in the bootcamp assistent their is nothing stated about requiring a specific build of Windows 10. If Apple is going to support these Macs for a Windows 10 installation then they should support them or specify the exact requirements in their support documentation. Instead of leaving customers to find out why things don’t work when Apple clearly states they should on their website.

Oct 4, 2021 7:01 PM in response to Myatix

Myatix wrote:

Thanks for the reply again!

Yes it sounds a lot like the issue I have been having!
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204923

A 2013 Mac is considered an older Mac. I have had to install W10 from older ISOs and then upgrade to newer W10 releases.

However I am running the latest version of Catalina (10.15.7) which is the highest MacOS I can run on this machine and according to the apple support website this machine is supported to run Windows 10 in bootcamp. BUT... It doesn't!!!

The BC drivers are almost 7 years old.

As for MACHALDriver.sys I can't check the version as I cannot install Bootcamp as it results in the Mac rebooting continuously and then results in a fatal error???

But according to the Bootcamp.xml...

<Component Name="MacHALDriver.sys" GUID="*" SharedDLL="No">
<File Name="MacHALDriver.sys">
<KeyPath>yes</KeyPath>
<FileVersion>6.200.6.0</FileVersion>
</File>
</Component>

I will check for the newer versions.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION... Doing a standard install using the bootcamp assistant results in the following issues:

Issue Number 1:
New USB 2.0 Key size (64GB)
• Error 1: There is not enough space on the USB drive when creating the Windows installation USB. This is obviously wrong as the entire installation with drivers and windows is just over 8GB and the apple website states that only 16GB USB key is required.

Be careful. W10 1903 and later ISOs will not work with MBR/FAT32 format USBs. They require MBR/exFAT format.

Workaround: Manually format the USB using Disk Utility as ExFAT with Master Boot Record. Then Create the USB key by downloading the Windows Support files using bootcamp to the Mac's hard drive and then manually copy them to the USB drive. Then open the Windows 10 ISO and copy them to the same USB drive. So based on the fact I am using the latest version of Catalina I would expect this to work.

As mentioned, exFAT is valid for W10 1903 and later ISOs. However, W10 1903 is a 2019 ISO.

Issue Number 2:
Can only install Windows in EFI Boot.
• When attempting to install Windows normally the MacBook Pro reboots having prepared the partitions in Bootcamp Assistant and a black screen loads stating cannot find media or something similar.

Workaround:
Reboot Mac then hold down Alt to select boot disk. Only option that appears is EFI Boot or MacOS. So the only option as far as I can see it is to install Windows using EFI Boot.

The UEFI Macs are late 2013 models. Trying to install EFI Boot can lead to driver issues.


Issue Number 3:
Partition created by Bootcamp won't allow EFI Boot Install to install Windows
• When you get to the point in the Windows installation where you have to choose a drive and format it you are not able to do so as you receive an error.

Workaround:
Boot back into MacOS and use Disk Utility to format the Bootcamp drive as Mac OS Extended (Journeled). Reboot hold down ALT, then choose EFI Boot and when you get to the installation step where you choose which disk/partition to install Windows on you then delete the Bootcamp partition. (Becareful to choose the correct one.) Then add a new partition using the windows installer and continue with the installation.

Since your Mac is a preUEFI Mac, when you use DU to format the Bootcamp partition, it removes the Hybrid MBR. This leads to more issues later.


Issue Number 4:
Graphics driver causes Fatal System Error and continuous reboot.
• Workaround: Rename driver causing the issue in the Bootcamp/Drivers folder to .old and then reattempt the installation by removing the bootcamp installation using Bootcamp Assistant then recreating the Bootcamp partitions and reinstalling.

The nVidia GT650m driver provided by BC drivers is old. It is not compatible with newer releases of W10. You should consider a W10 1607 or older ISO, if possible.

Issue Number 5:
Bootcamp Installation after successful Windows 10 install causes continuous reboot
• Workaround: Before doing anything create a restore point using Windows Recovery. Then manually install all missing drivers that appear in Device Manager by using the various folders from the Bootcamp/Drivers folder. Once you have internet connection again run Windows Update to update any old drivers that Windows has detected.

This is pointing back to older drivers on a newer ISO issue, yet again.


Issue Number 6:
Windows is successfully installed at this point but the following items are still not working. Not able to install Bootcamp resulting in right click on trackpad Trackpad not working, No backlight on keyboard, No Audio drivers.
Workaround: NONE SO FAR...

My recommendation to find an older W10 ISO (1511 or 1607 or 1703) and try with it. I have had to do this on 2012 and 2013 Macs fairly often.


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