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iPhone 13 pro lens flare

Are these signs of camera defects with my iPhone 13 Pro Max? I keep getting these lens flares when taking photos and videos with bright sources of light. Happens allot with the sun during day and bright lights during night.

iPhone 13 Pro Max, iOS 15

Posted on Sep 29, 2021 2:11 PM

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Posted on Sep 29, 2021 2:38 PM

Yes and they're normal. Before you take the photo, you can easily see the flares on the screen. Alter the angle of the phone relative to the bright lights and you can eliminate the flares.


While these two photos were taken on iPhone 12 Pro Max, you can see what I'm talking about.


This photo show lens flare:



Simply angling the camera differently without moving at all produced this photo:


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Sep 30, 2021 10:55 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

If a I can find a spot on a lung x-ray that is missed by experts, Shirley in this advanced space age phone here the iPhone 13 Pro Max with its trillion operations per second and it's 16 core AI chip couldn't be trained to do that?


can't be done is different than has not been done yet. I since it's so pronounced on the iPhone 13 and never came up in any of my other devices to the point of having a concern or even noticing, seems like it's time to start working on that... take a half 1 trillion off something else and throw it on the lens flare issue!

Sep 30, 2021 11:37 PM in response to Fresnogreg

There is a big difference here.


That AI spits out images humans may want to take a closer look at.


You want the AI to summarily remove photo image data.


It is no more pronounced on the 13 than it was on the 12 or 11 for that matter, and likely others; you have simply noticed it, are aware of it and are now actively looking for it.


Once I noticed the effect several years ago I began to see it everywhere in stills, YouTube video and all over TV.


It hasn’t been that noticeable in theatrical films because they dedicate several million dollars to post-production to erase such things pixel by pixel, just as you could by the use of a utility such as Snapseed.

Oct 1, 2021 6:26 AM in response to deggie

Nice to have you here for "Lens Flare 2", the sequel this year!


Like last year, people who are getting their first phone with Night Mode capabilities will be up in arms over flares. They will claim their iPhone (whatever model) never did this and they will be convinced their phone is defective. They don't understand photographic principles, but are convinced their phone is defective, when it's not.


Last year, Dogcow and me took a lot of abuse from users when we tried to help them understand, so your participation is appreciated!

Oct 1, 2021 7:23 AM in response to lobsterghost1

It's not about bending laws of photographic physics, I have taken many fotos with compact camera and my bigger DSLR, and I never got these flares in the situations that I get now on my iphone 12 pro max. I never had to angle or do anything special with my other cameras to avoid flares cause they were never there. I tried taking photos outside of some christmas lights, no matter how I angled my phone the flares wouldnt go away. I still think it's the way the lenses are housed and positioned in the camera, and I also think they need some coating, this would all help a lot.

Oct 1, 2021 7:32 AM in response to Salvida

Exactly! I never had them on earlier phones either, personally, And it looks like some examples were pulled up, it wasn’t a common occurrence as some here are insisting. That’s why when it happened so badly on the new phone, I didn’t even recognize or know it WAS a lens flare. I thought it was an manufactured defect. It’s a new issue for me and totally alien to what I’ve experienced in the past. It’s so bad on the 13 as to be ridiculous!

Oct 1, 2021 7:36 AM in response to Fresnogreg

It wasn't very common for people to be taking so many photos of bright lights at night before iPhone 12. Now with these new camera systems in the 12 and 13 phones, people are out shooting far more photos at night, well, because they can get clarity and depth of field they could never get on lesser iPhones. So, people are all of the sudden seeing flares when they didn't before. But be assured, the lesser phones were perfectly capable and indeed as has been demonstrated here, capture lens flare.

Oct 1, 2021 9:47 AM in response to Fresnogreg

Hello ~ Olixar and Tuopuna offer a camera screen protector that helps protect your camera from scratching and touts anti glare as well. They are priced well and also a few others are working on a more advanced coating for these much like our more expensive lens for our regular cameras. I have never owned a single camera that functioned perfectly on it own….many , many thousands of dollars spent on lens and lighting gadgets to achieve a “decent “ pic so when you think about it on those terms…these little cameras are quite remarkable. Also other gadgets are available to help the iPhone out. Enjoy yours.


~Katana-San~


Oct 3, 2021 4:21 PM in response to lobsterghost1

Wait not very common taking photos of bright lights at night before the Iphone 12 ? Yes it was, just now you can take better photos because of night mode. I have taken many with my older phones and cameras on hollidays, loved taking in the evening around the illuminated pool, and with the hotel in the background with lights. Also around christmas with pretty christmas lights. They all looked good and without flares.

Oct 3, 2021 5:00 PM in response to Salvida

Salvida wrote:

No my DSLR does not have nightmode like my iphone. But dont see what that has to do with this, the lense flares are not related to nightmode :)

Some are saying it's a little better on the 13 pro / max but havent got to test it myself. Im gonna wait and see next year with the 14, I think I will upgrade then.

It was the dawn of night mode photography which caused so many to see flares they never saw before. Pre-iPhone 12 phones, night photos were usually grainy and poor. iPhone 12 opened a new world of photographic capabilities, which most people never used before. Thus, the threads of often poorly composed photos, with flares and people claiming their phone camera system must be defective, which their not.

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