Keynote fonts not reading correctly Mac OS Monterey

Just updated to the latest and greatest MacBook Pros, but I'm noticing in some keynote presentations that the fonts imported through Adobe Fonts have extra extra tight character spacing—the characters basically overlap.


This is only with the Regular version of the fonts, all others seem to be ok.


Is this an OS thing, a Keynote thing, or an Adobe thing?


thanks in advance

MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 12.0

Posted on Oct 27, 2021 9:32 AM

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Posted on Oct 31, 2021 1:43 PM

It seems to be a font cache problem. You can temporarily fix it by clearing the font cache but the problem will reappear after a while. Execute these commands in Terminal to clear the cache:


  1. $ sudo atsutil databases -remove
  2. Enter your system password and hit return.
  3. $ atsutil server -shutdown
  4. $ atsutil server -ping
  5. Reboot
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Mar 1, 2022 2:43 AM in response to Jinglemanmike

I am glad that worked for you. I am now running 12.2.1 (clean install), that was no fix.


What I got rid of the ?Glyphs for me was:

Deinstalling my font collections.

Removing **all** Type1Postscript Fonts - they were showing in Get Info as executable (!?!)

Uninstalled my font management program (FontAgent pro - that stung, as I had 150+ of bespoke sets)

Converting old Type 1 Fonts to OpenType using FontXchange (which cost me $90), but I could batch convert and I have a very large collection of Fonts some I bought from suppliers that no longer exist.

Started using Font Book - loaded fonts and validated them all (out of 1000's of Fonts I only had 6 or so minor problems)


I cannot say whether all of the above needed to be done, but that has worked for me. I can deal with some subsequent font substitution as my text is now represented.


Some problems remain:

Within Keynote there is still an issue with some font families not appearing as open/available - yet are open when viewed

in FontBook. Some of this reminds me of font ID problems when going from OS9 to OSX.

There do seem to be naming/representation issues with Fonts like Gill. For instance some cuts of Gill MT do not display correctly (showing Gill Sans as Inline Gill) or not showing at all.

I have yet to delve deeper, I think the original Gill MT (MonoType) was renamed GillSans (or maybe Gill Sans) in OSX some time back and possibly this is the source of the ID issue.


I have had to reformat many of my talks because the set of the fonts has changed, but I have got rid of the ?Glyphs

Nov 9, 2021 7:52 AM in response to phil_in_queens

My workaround, while apple and Adobe are trying to find a solution (this worked in pages).

Fino Sans is the font that was missing so I typed a line in NOTES, changed is to Fino Sans, Copied it to PAGES and it worked!


It's fully editable and I can copy it within the document to other pages (but it still does not show up in my text choices or Font Book .

Dec 6, 2021 8:55 AM in response to Michael Hyatt1

The first page solution wasn't working for me either. But after updating everything (11.2 keynote) and doing those terminal commands it's worked. So might be worth trying again. Obviously understand might not work for everyone. It really is an embarrassing issue for Apple. I have had some many permission problems since using Monterey and had to change several workflows because of it. Hopefully Apple wills start releasing properly tested updates.

Nov 10, 2021 4:20 AM in response to phil_in_queens

Numbers and Pages failing big time with fonts in Monterey since upgrade.


Can't load in fonts by font book - neither old postscript nor google truetype fonts.

List of available fonts very short.

Lots of fonts listed but missing with crossed out circle next to displayed name

Lots of fonts just tofu. Square with cross.


It was working fine but then I just wanted to add a font with an up arrow and its destroyed the functionality.


Using typeface as my font manager.

Other applications such as the affinity suite are just fine.


Nov 17, 2021 8:00 PM in response to Rob Lux

I just updated Keynote to it's latest version 11.2, but it didn't fix anything. Still the same issue with the fonts. Even after I reinstalled the font and restarted the machine it would work for just that startup, but when I shut it down and start it up again, it would go back to the same garbled crap. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be fixed with the next major OS update.

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