Late 2014 5k iMac screen goes black when playing videos

tests so far

-Apple diagnostics says all fine

-Entrecheck says all fine with the acceptation its a older Mac with some apps, but all minor.

-Boot in safe mode the screen never goes black

-Boot holding power supply then connecting power cable forcing fan to run wild, screen never goes black


I have not checked verbose; console or anything suggesting video card or power supply failure


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Posted on Dec 14, 2021 5:42 AM

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Posted on Dec 16, 2021 7:01 PM

GavrielTech wrote:

I migrated then did the whole process again with syncing my icloud account.

i got this machine used, then formatted the fusion drive with a fresh install of Catalina
i used a new account (no icloud) cause i misspelled my user name,
Screen blackouts,
i then created a new user linked to my icloud account
Screen black outs continued

only the paid etrecheck shows so e more details, the last time i posted a report here my thread was taken down..dunno why..

If the screen black outs occur with a fresh reformat of the disk followed by a fresh MacOS install WITH NO USER MIGRATION AT ALL and no putting of anything on this fresh install aside from the MacOS and Apple apps that were originally installed with the MacOS, no exceptions, then you have a hardware problem that won't go away until it is diagnosed and repaired.


The fact that the problem goes away in Safe Mode, that could be because Safe Mode disables certain hardware accelerators for graphics, and that hardware is broken or faulty. Or it might be something else ...


Apple's policy on servicing older Macs is documented here:


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624


"Service and parts may be obtained ... for up to 7 years, subject to parts availability ... Apple discontinues hardware service for certain technologically-obsolete products. Your device is supported by ongoing OS updates and backed by a network of more than 5,000 Apple-certified repair locations that you can count on if something unexpected happens."


Your Mac is more than 7 years old, so Apple no longer stocks parts for it and won't service it anymore. Personally, I would drive the 140 miles to figure this out . I have working Macs from 2008, 2010, 2013, and 2016, as well as new ones. Older Macs can often be fixed to be like new. I think it's worth finding out. Before doing that I would recheck, back up all files, then erase and fresh install and migrate NOTHING over, just see if the problem is there on a plain vanilla version of your Mac. If you have already done this, then it seems that your hardware is broken.


I don't see any other options. You have obtained a used computer ("Caveat emptor"), old enough that Apple won't service it anymore, perhaps it had the problem before and that's why the seller sold it to you. Buying computers used from private parties who don't offer a warranty can be dicey. Anyway, I suggest making one last try on the clean install with zero files or software migrated in, to test again. Then if still not working, it's time to make the trek to the authorized repair center (or find a safe way to ship to one), or simply go with a new Mac. The new M1 Macs are spectacular.

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Dec 16, 2021 7:01 PM in response to GavrielTech

GavrielTech wrote:

I migrated then did the whole process again with syncing my icloud account.

i got this machine used, then formatted the fusion drive with a fresh install of Catalina
i used a new account (no icloud) cause i misspelled my user name,
Screen blackouts,
i then created a new user linked to my icloud account
Screen black outs continued

only the paid etrecheck shows so e more details, the last time i posted a report here my thread was taken down..dunno why..

If the screen black outs occur with a fresh reformat of the disk followed by a fresh MacOS install WITH NO USER MIGRATION AT ALL and no putting of anything on this fresh install aside from the MacOS and Apple apps that were originally installed with the MacOS, no exceptions, then you have a hardware problem that won't go away until it is diagnosed and repaired.


The fact that the problem goes away in Safe Mode, that could be because Safe Mode disables certain hardware accelerators for graphics, and that hardware is broken or faulty. Or it might be something else ...


Apple's policy on servicing older Macs is documented here:


https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201624


"Service and parts may be obtained ... for up to 7 years, subject to parts availability ... Apple discontinues hardware service for certain technologically-obsolete products. Your device is supported by ongoing OS updates and backed by a network of more than 5,000 Apple-certified repair locations that you can count on if something unexpected happens."


Your Mac is more than 7 years old, so Apple no longer stocks parts for it and won't service it anymore. Personally, I would drive the 140 miles to figure this out . I have working Macs from 2008, 2010, 2013, and 2016, as well as new ones. Older Macs can often be fixed to be like new. I think it's worth finding out. Before doing that I would recheck, back up all files, then erase and fresh install and migrate NOTHING over, just see if the problem is there on a plain vanilla version of your Mac. If you have already done this, then it seems that your hardware is broken.


I don't see any other options. You have obtained a used computer ("Caveat emptor"), old enough that Apple won't service it anymore, perhaps it had the problem before and that's why the seller sold it to you. Buying computers used from private parties who don't offer a warranty can be dicey. Anyway, I suggest making one last try on the clean install with zero files or software migrated in, to test again. Then if still not working, it's time to make the trek to the authorized repair center (or find a safe way to ship to one), or simply go with a new Mac. The new M1 Macs are spectacular.

Dec 15, 2021 7:45 PM in response to GavrielTech

You should have your iMac checked by an authorized Apple service center, because you are experiencing a video/graphics problem, and booting into safe mode typically disables certain video accelerators. So you are using video hardware differently in safe mode. Your graphics/video hardware is suspect. I think you have ruled out most other possibilities with your fairly systematic testing.


I would not take your computer to Apple, but rather to an independent repair shop that is certified by Apple. Those shops have the freedom to work on older Macs, in fact many specialize in diagnosing and fixing older Macs. There is one a few miles from where I am and they replaced the SSD and battery in our 2013 MacBook Air for about $50. Apple no longer sells parts for this "obsolete" Mac but they directed me to OWC and had me purchase the Apple-compatible parts at very low cost and bring them in with my Mac where they did the work. These Apple-certified shops have access to much more in depth diagnostic tools for your hardware which are far superior to the Apple Diagnostics that come with your Mac. This Apple certified shop even shows up on the Apple web site where one can go to make online appointments for service. You are correct that Apple itself stops working on older Macs, but these independent (Apple certified) repair shops still do this work.


Also, bring your power supply in as well, they can test that for you too.

Dec 15, 2021 4:46 PM in response to GavrielTech

@GavrieITech - After your drive format and clean install of the OS, did you migrate from a backup? If so, was it just the User data or was it everything? If it's a 3rd party software conflict (and it sounds like it is), restoring more than the User data from a backup is just re-introducing the problem to the freshly installed OS. The recommended way to start fresh after a disk wipe and a clean install of the OS is to just migrate your User data and then re-download the apps you use. Lots of cruft accumulates over the years, especially if you've been updating the OS in place.


If you post the Etrecheck report using the "Additional text" button we might have a better idea of what's going on with your system.

Dec 17, 2021 3:33 PM in response to steve626

Kind of you to reply but why are you if the issue is solved?


repeat; Pasted again, it states that Etrecheck does not meet Apple's requirements for acceptance into the official Mac App Store and contains OSX.Genieo and PUA.OSX means its malware,


no brainer there; it's malware and malicious, it did not report anything wrong anyway, the Etrecheck did not report any issue causing the blackout outs before,


safe mode disarmed the audio, normal.


I read through the thread; I did everything possible before finding the problem...as I said its a FUSION DRIVE ISSUE; its now solved.

Dec 15, 2021 1:54 PM in response to GavrielTech

Suggest downloading the Application Etrecheck directly from a well Respected ASC Contributor. 


Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with nor receive compensation from the Developer.


The application is free or paid from added features. 


Run the application with Full Disc Access ( Security & Privacy - Full Disc Access ).


It will take a Snap Shot -  both the hardware and software.


 The Report will Not Reveal Any Personal Information. 


Post back the Full Report - copy and paste - using the Additional Text Icon ( 3rd Icon to last )


We can have a look at the report for possible issues and may have possible suggestions to resolve the issues.


Any Third Party Applications that will interfere with the normal operation of the OS, alter, modify, remove or delete or attempt to do so is an invitation for disaster and may require a Reinstallation of the OS.


This includes AntiVirus, Disk Cleaners, Disk Optimizes, UnInstaller etc.



Dec 22, 2021 12:36 AM in response to steve626

by the way, if there is not problem in safe mode it means Catalina-BigSur eliminated certain advance video extensions and you can turn them on manually.


Etrecheck does not and can not detect hardware issues or issues with drivers extensions disabled or unable to load kext etc


Since Apple no longer supports this (late 2014) iMac its best to not include them because of many reasons to do with support for drivers;; firmware etc, example Catalina and BigSur should not be running on older machines, wish apple warned everyone of consenquences

Dec 15, 2021 12:29 PM in response to Owl-53

Thanks for replying; I read dozens of complaints about this here and found it odd everyone pretends they don't have any idea what is causing it.


If your iMac screen goes black its not odd to assume a power supply or other hardware is causing it, but when it does not do it in safe mode and you can't load certain codecs its also easy to assume Apple added a codec that is incompatible or causing the issue and its not hardware cause it NEVER ever goes black in safe mode.


As for taking it to an apple place while its out of warranty means been told to buy a new one, they are obliged to NOT share info to what the cause is or they get fired....their job is to service clients (people covered under a warranty, apple care or buying something) so they are obliged to suggest something to buy., everyone else including technicians are not allowed to know what's wrong or even fix their own computers..correct?


it would be of good practice if Apple was open about this but I guess new customers may shy away from the idea of buying apple products if they knew this was the case, even when all tech companies are practising the same thing but at least PC owners can get their devices fixed right?


Im not ranting or anything; just saying if I did all this and its a software issue then apple should provide a solution regardless of the computer been out of warranty; it happens with the system the computer came with so if there was a irreversible firmware update I need to know (BTW you can't even use safari in the original system this iMac came with) I guess im hoping im provide wrong and its fixable at a reasonable price for a part etc

Dec 15, 2021 2:47 PM in response to Owl-53

Hi, i mentioned that i already did this before in the top of this thread

(restart recovery apple diagnostic test) also found bo hardware issues.


formatted drive and fresh i stall of original system computer came with including catalina and then bigsur all had same results, black screen when playing videos in browser randomly and (no black screen in safe mode or power plug power up with fan full blasted.


The only i think of is an apple security update included a firmware alteration causing this cause when catalina came out it caused serious issues on one of our macbook pros until we upgraded the ssd.


Dec 17, 2021 11:34 AM in response to steve626

I did share etrechevk reports before but according to Apple its malware



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EtreCheck, a 3rd party app that does not meet Apple's requirements for acceptance into the official Mac App Store, has been shown to contain files that have tested positive for malware according to numerous authorities on the subject.

The app has been shown to contain OSX.Genieo and PUA.OSX as well as have other dangerous code, according to top anti virus companies including McAfee, TrendMicro and AVG, Avast, AegisLab,

Dec 17, 2021 12:12 PM in response to GavrielTech

GavrielTech wrote:

I did share etrechevk reports before but according to Apple its malware


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EtreCheck, a 3rd party app that does not meet Apple's requirements for acceptance into the official Mac App Store, has been shown to contain files that have tested positive for malware according to numerous authorities on the subject.
The app has been shown to contain OSX.Genieo and PUA.OSX as well as have other dangerous code, according to top anti virus companies including McAfee, TrendMicro and AVG, Avast, AegisLab,

No, Apple does not say Etrecheck is malware.


Your quote is from a site called "howtotellifyourmacishacked" which I guess you are trusting to be the truth. It appears to be promoting a variety of anti-virus software companies. I think they have a monetary interest in promoting this type of misinformation.


Apple imposes certain requirements on software that it puts in its App Store. Some developers prefer to sell their software directly to users; in fact, some offer two versions of their software, one in the App Store, and another downloadable directly from the developer web site and that latter version often has more functionality. An example of this is DaisyDisk.

Dec 22, 2021 1:49 AM in response to GavrielTech

GavrielTech wrote:

There where many ways to check compare graphics extensions which worked fine in "safe mode" in order to enable disable anything causing this in Catalina, BigSur etc

Etrecheck is nothing but malware; no info about extensions and not worth paying for either


This is complete garbage.


Etrecheck is free to use, and absolutely NOT malware. It does not in any way modify a system. It is a diagnostic application that produces a report, so users here can see what may be causing problems to the OP.

It is an invaluable and indispensable tool, used here thousands of times, for the purpose it was created for.


I am not sure if you are trolling or just misguided, but please don't gratuitously disparage the best tool we have to help others.

Dec 22, 2021 4:30 AM in response to GavrielTech

Etrecheck produces a report that mere mortals like us can read, in an organized fashion, collecting valuable information in one place. It has helped us solve hundreds of cases around here. Yes, the information exists in the system - that is how Etrecheck is able to provide it, duh! - but it is not easy to gather, especially for less knowledgeable users.

All they have to do is run this application and post ONE report here.

Most users cannot open the Console, and figure out things from cryptic system reports, and they should not have to.


And if the threads you refer to are the solution, fine! You could have posted that before.


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