AirPort Extreme 802.11ac do not show hard drive in APFS

Im running iMac 24 inc 2021 with 12.1 Monetary. Want to run Time Machine on external HD through AirPort Extreme 802.11ac (Running 7.9.1).


I have recently bought used three AirPort Extreme 802.11ac (A1521). Formated it as APFS & GUIDE and connected a new 2,5 inch bus powered 4TB HD. However it doesn't show in Airpot Utility.

  • Connect through powered USB Hub as an alternative direct connect above
  • Tested on all three Extremes
  • Restarted the Extreme after HD connect
  • Tried USB stick 16 GB, APFS & GUIDE


Only for test, since I asume can't use it, I tried to format USB stick to Mac OS Extended. That works on multiple Extremes.


Have browsed the net with no success.


Any who have a clue?

AirPort Extreme 802.11ac Gen1

Posted on Feb 13, 2022 9:47 AM

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Posted on Feb 13, 2022 10:17 AM

Please remember that the AirPort Extreme 802.11ac was designed in the 2012 timeframe, long before Apple began to use APFS around 2019-2020, so the firmware for the USB port on any of the AirPort routers will only support hard drives that have been formatted in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) or FAT 16/32.


In addition, please remember that Apple discontinued the AirPort line in 2018.


If you want to use Time Machine to back up to a drive connected to the USB port on any of the AirPorts, you will need to use the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format on the drive.

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Feb 13, 2022 10:17 AM in response to taddesse

Please remember that the AirPort Extreme 802.11ac was designed in the 2012 timeframe, long before Apple began to use APFS around 2019-2020, so the firmware for the USB port on any of the AirPort routers will only support hard drives that have been formatted in Mac OS Extended (Journaled) or FAT 16/32.


In addition, please remember that Apple discontinued the AirPort line in 2018.


If you want to use Time Machine to back up to a drive connected to the USB port on any of the AirPorts, you will need to use the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format on the drive.

Feb 13, 2022 10:34 AM in response to taddesse

You can back up a Mac running Monterey or Big Sur (APFS formats) using Time Machine to a hard drive at the USB port of the AirPort Extreme, but the format of the backup file will be Mac OS Extended (Journaled), not APFS.


Not sure if you were aware that the USB port on the AirPort Extreme (and Time Capsule) is an old and slow USB 2.0 design, so backups are going be very slow.


This makes things more complicated, with more chances for errors to occur in the backup process. In other words, the data on your Mac will be using the APFS format, but the Time Machine backups will use the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format.


If you had a Time Capsule, the internal hard drive cannot be formatted in APFS, so Time Machine backups to a Time Capsule will use the Mac OS Extended (Journaled) format as well for Macs running Monterey or Big Sur.





Feb 13, 2022 10:52 AM in response to taddesse

Tesserax is correct. Although the drive attached to the USB port on the AirPort Extreme will be formatted for Mac OS Extended (Journaled), the actual backup file itself will be formatted in APFS automatically by Time Machine.


So, you will have a backup file in one format on a hard drive in another format. Not exactly the most reliable way to back up, so I would not consider using this as my primary backup plan.

Feb 13, 2022 10:31 AM in response to taddesse

taddesse wrote:

Is my assumption right, that running Time Machine back-up from Monetary would not work/not advised on a HD formatted in Mac OS Extended

Time Machine will continue to work, under macOS Monterey, to create backups to drives formatted in MacOS Extended (and attached to the AirPort Extreme). When running the first backup, the sparsebundle created on that drive will actually be in APFS format. However, the drive, itself, will remain formatted in MacOS Extended.

Feb 13, 2022 10:20 AM in response to Bob Timmons

Thanks for a quick reply!


Yes, I understand its extremely old. Shouldn't have gone down this route.


However, annoying since the Apple support for Time Machine, lists Extreme 802.1ac with HD as an option. Further Extreme 802.1ac is officially supported, hence its not far fetched to assume that you could run Monetary Time Machine with it. Apparently the limit is macOS 10.12 or older.


Is my assumption right, that running Time Machine back-up from Monetary would not work/not advised on a HD formatted in Mac OS Extended

Feb 13, 2022 11:06 AM in response to Bob Timmons

Thanks for the clarification!


Ok, it works and Apple Time Machine support was right in their information. That was good to know. But as you say, sounds like a set up prone for issues and poor performance. Think I'll connect the disk directly to iMac, with the disk in AFPS. Not my preferred choice, but given the circumstances, might be the safest solution.

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