HDV Camcorder not recognized in FCPX/iMovie/Quicktime in Monterey (12.3)

Hi,


Up until a few weeks ago I was able to import HDV video from my Canon HV-20 into FCPX using a Firewire cable on my new MBP M1 Max. This is a setup worked well many times before. But when I tried to import a tape today the camera doesn't show up in FCPX/iMovie/Quicktime anymore.


The only thing that changed (that I can think of) since last time I used it is the version of MacOS. Interestingly, the same camera with the same cable shows up just fine on a different laptop, an older MBP (Intel-based) running Big Sur.


In addition, I can see that the camera is properly recognized on the Firewire bus by MacOS on the M1 Max. It shows up in the System Information application (under Firewire) and on the command line when running:


Just not in any of the video import dialogs.


Since it was working a few weeks ago, it makes me think that something may have broken with one of the latest versions of Monterey.


I wonder if anybody else with an HDV camcorder/deck can confirm if they can see them as an option for importing video on an M1 Mac running the latest version of Monterey (12.3), either in FCPX, iMovie or Quicktime.


MacBook Pro 16″, macOS 12.3

Posted on Mar 19, 2022 5:41 PM

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Posted on Apr 12, 2022 12:52 AM

I spoke to Apple’s iMovie support and macOS support team on the phone yesterday. iMovie has divided to discontinue DV tape capturing and since macOS format moved to 64bit systems, the compatibility with DV camcorders was not taken into account. They told me the best is to keep my old MacBook as interface for capturing my tapes and then transfer the files.

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Apr 4, 2022 2:27 PM in response to Andre Bisson

To follow up ….

I have an old mac pro tower (2009 , 2 quad core processors) and I connected in the network with my M1 mini and I am using I Movie on the mac pro and importing my tapes directly to an extra ssd disc running on the mini.

It works and at least the sequences are already directly accessible to I Movie on the mini where I finish the packaging to be save on hard disk and dvd.

I will have to do the same with SP u-matic tapes where I collected souvenirs and film transfers before I went to HDV .

I still hope that Apple will revise Monterey so we can still work with tape format and tape caméras.

Thanks to everyone who suggested ways to deal with this and lets keep the pressure on Apple for a resolution of this.

Mar 25, 2022 1:18 AM in response to Ikester

As Monterey has nerfed my ability to attach my HDV camera and the main reason to use my Mac is transfer and editing these tapes then I am going to revert to reliable BigSur on an external drive.


Do you knowledgeable guys know if a 512gb usb stick will work ok (if the Mac is happy with it) rather than an external HDD - I have both.


Ill return to Monterey if they fix this issue but for now its binned.



Apr 2, 2022 4:52 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Thanks. I have been using Time Machine since I bought the M1 mini but at the beginning I kept messing the disk I was using , you see, I was used to the wheel of time machine turning and it was not doing so, I kept disconnecting and it took me to come to this forum to find out how to see the progress of a backup. I do not have a backup dating to big sur. So I thought I could upload it from the app store but it did and then refused to install it on top of Monterey and here I am.

I guess I will have to load my hdv tapes through my old mac pro or my old 17 in mac book pro and then transfer the files to my mini.

Apr 3, 2022 6:22 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

Thank you. I wish I could have had the chance to do that. We have a slow internet connection, so it took a whole night to upload the file from the Apple app store and when I came in front of my screen, there was a message saying that Big Sur could not be open on a more recent OS (Monterey) and to top that the file was not there anymore, thank you very much for Apple efficient system.

I concluded that I would have had to erase the actual OS but then I would be left with an inoperable computer to try and get Big Sur uploaded again or with another computer.

So the ball is in the court of Apple to put back compatibility with video tape system.

The problem is the same for all those working with any video editing software, may be it will put some pressure on Apple to re-establish that compatibility. From what I read, it was not the first time it happened in the story of operating OS.


Thank you very much for answering and suggesting, it is all noted. I appreciate it very much, at least I am not alone.

Apr 5, 2022 1:48 AM in response to Andre Bisson

Unless it is something easy to accomplish it will probably never happen.


Apple is a behemoth and Mac computers represent only a small part of the organisation.


The number of Final Cut Pro users is only a tiny percentage of all Mac owners and finally, the number of FCP editors still using tape is an even smaller percentage and dwindling.


So Apple really has no incentive to revert to features which it considers should be consigned to the past.


It's rather like a Ford T owner asking Ford to make parts for its century old defunct product.

Apr 11, 2022 7:03 AM in response to Ian R. Brown

Thank you for all your information, it’s truly appreciated et helpful. Searching the internet on his topic is not easy because there’s only a handful of users still working with DV tapes.


And I haven’t come up with a general consensus, seems to be working for some users et the other half have the same problem as we do, so I’m really not sure what’s going on.


That’s pretty much what I was thinking, when I saw the 12.3.1 update had been around for a few days already.


Do you know if there is a way of notifying Apple or giving a feedback (even though there’s very little chance it will get addressed by Apple) ? Would be good just to have an official answer.




May 3, 2022 12:54 PM in response to DIYfilmMaker

Actually my question has already been answered. I just went back and read everyone's comments. I should have checked first, sorry.

It looks like I need to explore a plan b. I have been shooting and developing super 8 film and then capturing it on to my Canon HV10 camcorder and uploading that into FCPX.

My best plan b options seem to be: buy a scanner like a Wolverine, or upgrade to a dslr camera or use the previous OS.

Thank you all for the useful information that you provide.

Paul

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