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M1 Pro Max RAM Usage/Memory Pressure

Hey all,

Trying to figure out this memory pressure issue on the new M1. See images below. The screenshot with 10GB of memory used is with no applications open, but the computer being on for maybe 2 weeks without a full restart.


The "12GB memory used" screenshot is after a fresh reboot. Higher memory usage but lower pressure.


These are both without any other apps running. When I run my daily driver programs - not even super stress inducing - my memory pressure blows up and gets into the yellow. Programs being Fusion 360, a few tabs open in chrome, and Tidal (spotify competitor). I normally would just avoid these memory warnings, but audio playback starts getting choppy when the memory pressure is in the yellow.


This is weird, right? I have a 2015 Macbook with 16GB of RAM and it can handle twice the level of this multitasking without stalling out.


Any idea of what the memory pressure is referring to if it is not directly related to the "memory used"?


Thanks


Posted on Mar 24, 2022 11:01 AM

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Posted on Mar 24, 2022 11:32 AM

Please make sure you are not stressing over something that reflects a major RAM management change in Oct 2013. Starting with macOS 10.9, Apple re-engineered its RAM allocation scheme based on the principle that “unused RAM is wasted RAM.”


"Free RAM" may be good for Windows but the metrics for Mac RAM evaluation are now "Memory Pressure" and "Swap Used."


If Pressure is in the green and Swap Used is zero or nearly so (like under about 300MB), everything is working normally.


This screenie is from an older iMac after updating to OS 10.9 and the new RAM scheme. Note how much of its installed RAM was being used, yet the computer was running perfectly with low pressure and zero swaps.



The propeller-head version is here: Introduction


If you are still worried about RAM usage, all you need do is to restart the computer once a week or so to reduce the swap value.


 


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Mar 24, 2022 11:32 AM in response to ctbrahmstedt

Please make sure you are not stressing over something that reflects a major RAM management change in Oct 2013. Starting with macOS 10.9, Apple re-engineered its RAM allocation scheme based on the principle that “unused RAM is wasted RAM.”


"Free RAM" may be good for Windows but the metrics for Mac RAM evaluation are now "Memory Pressure" and "Swap Used."


If Pressure is in the green and Swap Used is zero or nearly so (like under about 300MB), everything is working normally.


This screenie is from an older iMac after updating to OS 10.9 and the new RAM scheme. Note how much of its installed RAM was being used, yet the computer was running perfectly with low pressure and zero swaps.



The propeller-head version is here: Introduction


If you are still worried about RAM usage, all you need do is to restart the computer once a week or so to reduce the swap value.


 


Mar 24, 2022 11:07 AM in response to ku4hx

Yes, but these screenshots are with no other apps running. If I run my typical programs - Fusion 360, Chrome, Tidal, I'll shoot into the yellow. The pressure seems to be correlated to how long the computer has been running without a restart. I can run those programs right now and still be in the green (since I just did a restart). If I keep the computer on (still putting it to sleep, but not a restart) for 5 days or so, the pressure will be in the yellow. I can close all the programs and restart them, and I'll still be in the yellow, making me think it has something to do with the OS and not a memory leak in the program itself.

Mar 24, 2022 11:27 AM in response to ctbrahmstedt

Since you can't add memory, you have to take the pressure off. That means running fewer apps or apps that use less memory. My experience is you sometimes have to reboot to regain memory ... memory leak?


There may be a problem with the OS and if there is hopefully another will address that.


You can make a bug report to Apple: https://tidbits.com/2020/06/17/how-to-report-bugs-to-apple-so-they-get-fixed/

Mar 24, 2022 11:39 AM in response to Allan Jones

So what I'm not understanding is looking at both screenshots - the swap on both is negligible. 0, and 80MB. 80MB is from not rebooting the computer for a few weeks.


Also, both are in the same state. All apps closed, which is why I showed the task bar. Actually, the screenshot with the fresh reboot has Tidal running, so it is a little bit more stressed than the other.


The memory pressure looks like it's double, if not triple, in the latter screenshot - with nothing running. Can I see what is making up this pressure? With nothing running, sure, green is good. But if I use my computer even moderately, the pressure quickly goes into the yellow. Is this a bug? Again, M1 CPU, not an intel based architecture.

Apr 10, 2022 8:05 AM in response to ctbrahmstedt

You can also add additional items to the memory (and other) activity monitor displays. I especially like to add %-CPU, and place it in the leftmost column and sort by that column.


Activity Monitor > View > Columns ...


check %-CPU.

move %-CPU column to the leftmost position.

click on %-CPU to sort on that column (if it sorts up, click again to get highest at top).


Apr 10, 2022 11:13 AM in response to Floyd991

Over a span of several days, it is expected behavior to see memory usage has crept up. You have invoked MacOS features that were dynamically loaded, and have no provision for unloading -- you might need them again.


That is why periodic Restarts are a considered a best practice. Usually on the order of weekly, but many Users go for months without restarting, and are Just fine.

M1 Pro Max RAM Usage/Memory Pressure

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