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Expired website certificate on Safari

truthsocial.com is locked on Safari. Apparently their "certificate" was issued for one-year and expired last December 21st. The website opens without any difficulty when using Firefox as the browser. What's up? Can that be fixed from my end?


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MacBook Pro 15″, macOS 10.12

Posted on Jun 11, 2022 11:59 AM

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Jun 13, 2022 10:44 AM in response to arnettefromsaugerties

Apple doesn't make it easy. The best way to do it is to start with a Mac already running an older operating system. Not so easy if you don't already have a bootable device with that OS already installed on it.


Using that older operating system (High Sierra, perhaps, if not older) then use Disk Utility to format the device on which you intend to install it or a later operating system. Use GUID Partition Map and Mac OS Extended (Journaled) — which may no longer be an option with the Disk Utility provided with newer operating systems.


Let's assume that you can't do that. The next thing to try is booting the Internet version of macOS Recovery, and hopefully use its Disk Utility version to format that external device. To do that, refer to this excerpt from Use macOS Recovery on an Intel-based Mac - Apple Support:


  • Option-Shift-Command-R: Start up from macOS Recovery over the internet. Use this key combination to reinstall the version of macOS that came with your Mac or the closest version that’s still available.


(emphasis added)


When the macOS Utilities screen appears, use its version of Disk Utility for format that external disk. Make absolutely certain that you designate the correct disk to format.


If that macOS version predates what you're using now, then yes you can use the Option key feature to boot from that disk.


When I bought this, I had the option of upgraded to a 1-TB or 2-TB drive and I chose the 1-TB—so there must be room enough for another 1-TB internal drive.


The internal drive would have been one with greater capacity, not an additional, separate one. Replacing the internal disk is a lot more work than simply installing macOS on an external disk. If you were so motivated though, the internal one could be partitioned and an older macOS version installed on it in the same manner as I just described. That assumes it has sufficient capacity and you can cope with (for example) one 250 GB partition on which to run your older apps.

Jun 13, 2022 9:49 AM in response to arnettefromsaugerties

Since you asked, it's not so much that Apple wants you to constantly buy new Macs (although I suppose they wouldn't mind if you did), the fact is Apple considers operating system security an essential part of their core business model. Their single-minded approach to security extends to protecting your own personal information, which in turn makes it essential Safari lives up to their reputation as well. In practice, it means that every website, every developer, every downloadable product must absolutely, positively comply with whatever the latest security practices happen to be.


In the case of truthsocial, there is nothing to stop its developers from supporting older versions of Safari. In fact if you're an eBay or Amazon or whatever, they're motivated to attract as broad a consumer base as they can, because they are less concerned about how they derive their revenue. Both those sites load just fine on geriatric Macs.


If I had to guess though, Truth Social is justifiably concerned about bad actors spoofing their website or doing any number of nefarious deeds in an effort to shut them down, so they are going to be motivated to use as much platform security as technologically possible. But that's only a guess — since you asked.


At this late stage, 32-bit apps are really quite old. Apple announced the transition a long, long time ago, and only recently shut off support for them completely. If you need to run them though, you can certainly install a commensurately older version of macOS on an external hard disk drive, and boot from it when you need to run those apps. That's a common and relatively inexpensive workaround.


Safari gets updated along with macOS, so whatever version you are using is already appropriate for macOS 10.14.6.

Jun 11, 2022 2:37 PM in response to John Galt

I went through the website data and removed a majority of it and I tackled the browsing history. My computer is set to keep history for one month. I went through each item and the only ones listed for truthsocial.com were from today (I removed all). After I went through the cookies/data, when I try to access the truthsocial.com website, I notice that the certificate has been updated and now shows an expiration date of December 2022—however, the site still will not open in Safari. It will open in Firefox. Safari is my go-to browser and I prefer to use it all the time so I really don't want to switch to Firefox.

Jun 11, 2022 3:08 PM in response to John Galt

I went through the website data and removed the majority of it and I tackled the browsing history. My computer is set to keep history for one month. I went through each item and the only ones listed for truthsocial.com were from today (I removed all). After I went through the cookies/data, when I try to access the truthsocial.com website, I notice that the certificate has been updated and now shows an expiration date of December 2022—however, the site still will not open in Safari—no message, no spinning wheel, just a blank page. It will open in Firefox. Safari is my go-to browser and I prefer to use it all the tim so I really don't want to switch to Firefox. Any other suggestions?

Jun 12, 2022 8:35 PM in response to John Galt

Thank you for the suggestion. Unfortunately in Safe mode, the webpage still will not open in Safari, in either a regular or private window. For the heck of it, I tried on two of our iMacs: the older one running Mojave also will not open, whereas the newest one, fully upgraded opens just fine. On the older one I was given the option to "trust this computer" with respect to the Certificate—I checked it. On the laptop that I use, I am also running Mojave and have no plans to upgrade because I will lose my irreplaceable 32-bit programs. Do you think the older OS that is running on my laptop and the older iMac might be the issue?

Jun 13, 2022 8:07 AM in response to arnettefromsaugerties

Do you think the older OS that is running on my laptop and the older iMac might be the issue?


Apparently. Safari refuses to load truthsocial.com on any of my older Macs due to an expired certificate. "Older" meaning ten or so years old running commensurately old versions of Safari.


For now, the workaround is to use another browser that does not insist upon strict certificate compliance. For example, whereas Safari offers no latitude regarding noncompliant certificates, Firefox 77.0.1 loaded it just fine on a 14 year old iMac running El Capitan. You might also try Brave or Opera but I didn't try them on that Mac.


That Firefox version is also outdated and for all I know isn't available any more, but try downloading whatever the latest version of Firefox happens to be, and see if it will work.


On the older one I was given the option to "trust this computer" with respect to the Certificate—I checked it.


I got that too, but even after accepting that outdated Certificate Safari did not load it on that 2008 iMac.


There is definitely a point at which you will not be able to circumvent recent security requirements (for example, almost none of today's websites will load on my G3 iMac from the last century) but we're not there quite yet.

Jun 13, 2022 8:47 AM in response to John Galt

Thank you very much for your help. It had gotten to the point where I felt that Safari was the issue. Safari is an Apple program and Apple seems to insist that you upgrade or buy new, not only with MacBook Pro, but iPad, etc. I would gladly upgrade but Apple will no longer support my 32-bit apps, some of which are irreplaceable. So I'll use Firefox—as I've mentioned, I've had no problems what-so-ever on FireFox. My laptop, on which I run Mojave, has a one TB SDD—if I were to get a second 1 TB drive installed and run the latest OS on one drive and Mojave on the other, could that work? If so, I could keep all my 32-bit programs on the Mojave drive, while keeping current on the second. Would love to hear your thoughts.

Jun 13, 2022 9:58 AM in response to John Galt

With the new Apple file system, I have been unable to create a bootable external—I've already tried that. Perhaps it can't be done the same way that we did before Apple changed the file system. If you know of a way to do that, please let me know. I've done it in the past, before Mojave, as a "just in case" measure, but couldn't do it for this OS. What I was talking about, as far as a second drive is concerned, is in the computer itself. When I bought this, I had the option of upgraded to a 1-TB or 2-TB drive and I chose the 1-TB—so there must be room enough for another 1-TB internal drive. Could I then operate them independently in the same computer thru the Option feature on startup?

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