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Wifi „no internet connection“ issues (iOS16)

Ever since upgrading to iOS16 my two phones have serious Wifi issues. It connects to my home Wifi but the connection is sluggish and unstable and the connection receives the label „no internet connection“. I have multiple other devices including two iPads, an iPhone on iOS15, a MacBook, all of which have no issues at all. This issue has also been reported last year after iOS15 rollout here. The issue does not occur on both phones simultaneously and pretty much at random. It first appeared on my older iPhone 12 and after receiving my iPhone 14 Pro Max, which has been setup using an iCloud Backup from the 12, the problem appeared there as well immediately.


Apple Support hasn‘t been much help yet. Reset network settings, delete all VPNs, restart router, set proxy to automatic, etc… all didn‘t help. This issue is also a pain to communicate. One Apple Support guy declared the problem solved as I could load a website (yay!). So my hope is someone from the community has silently found a solution for this.


Posted on Sep 19, 2022 10:39 PM

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Posted on Sep 19, 2022 11:18 PM

I wouldn‘t be here if this generic help would have led anywhere. Again: Apple Support could‘t help as we went over these again and again. Also do I not see „contacting the ISP“ as a valid step, as 99% of my devices are running fine, except for two iPhones on iOS16. And another again: I AM CONNECTED with the internet and able to very sluggishly load webpages, but the connection is shown as „not connected“.

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Oct 25, 2022 4:49 AM in response to jw0202

I have noticed that my phone is slow intermittently. It’s not the Wi-Fi because all of my other devices do not have the issue. I have a brand new iPhone 14 Pro and have contacted apple support. The last option is to send the phone in for repair which is where I’m at. If the phone gets sent anywhere it will be getting returned for a different manufacturer. This is my first iPhone and may very well be my last.

Sep 22, 2022 2:25 PM in response to Theodorant

When this happens, it's almost always due to your phone not receiving a proper IP address via DHCP from your server, or not receiving appropriate gateway settings.


In either case, it's due to a failed communication between your device and your DHCP server.


Most times, that's your Wi-Fi router, but sometimes it's a different device on your network that's responsible for providing DHCP service.


Depending upon how tech savvy you are, you may want to check your DHCP server's logs to see if it's complaining about anything.

Sep 24, 2022 12:34 AM in response to Theodorant

With the router company and the ISP, we were able to gain insights. Using a VPN, the problem does not seem to occur, which is why the router company argued the ISP may have an issue with their DNS service. The ISP, however, didn‘t find any signs of trouble in their systems. Nonetheless, both argued for a router factory reset. After router factory reset the problem does indeed not occur anymore. Now I‘m trying with the router company to isolate the problem by readjusting the router settings one by one until the problem reoccurs. It has to be noted, that no one dares yet to accept the error on their side, so it is still unclear whether it is router, ISP or iOS16. I‘ll provide updates.


@jason: If you can organise access to a VPN service I recommend testing that for once. You mentioned you tried router reset: to factory settings or a later OS version? Is your router rather new?

Sep 24, 2022 5:52 AM in response to Theodorant

VPN connections will usually make Wi-Fi problems worse. If you can’t get it to work without using VPN don’t switch to VPN, instead troubleshoot the problem until it is resolved. VPN will just mask it and cause problems later if it isn’t resolved at the source.


There is a simple test you can do to isolate the problem: Try it on different Wi-Fi networks. Ideally friends or neighbors, but if not, reliable public sites like hotels, libraries, hospitals, Starbucks, MacDonald’s, etc. Avoid the “public” networks that are provided by cable companies; they are frequently pretty flakey. If the problem is only on your home network there is only one place that needs to be investigated.


If you suspect the DNS service from your ISP you can override it with a reliable public DNS, such as Microsoft (1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.1), Google (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4), or OpenDNS (208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220)

Sep 24, 2022 11:23 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

Dear Lawrence, please note that using the VPN was so far the only clue in this matter. Obviously, it is not a solution.


Also does the problem not occur in other networks (at least the ones I visited so far). But this is not a big surprise as this issue doesn‘t occur for a gazillion of other users. Yet it is remarkable, that it happens for some devices (and maybe routers?) but not for others and apparently only with new major releases (at least iOS15 and 16). But also that all parties can only shrug their shoulders as if this was a higher force that somehow accomplishes to avoid log files. I realise that the incentives for the parties are weak, which is why I‘m happy to dig a bit. Might learn something down the road.


I also used the Google DNS temporarily, but I gave up on it shortly, as the router reset resulted in the problem to be gone. I will retest, but I have to wait until the rest of the familiy allows me to manipulate the router again…

Sep 24, 2022 2:55 PM in response to Theodorant

I did do a factory reset on router, did not solve the problem. It is a newer (couple years) EA8300 linksys. ATM I just have wifi turned off on my phone because the slowness was annoying me. I do see other people complaining about it on various forums and twitter, but not a ton, as you mentioned in another comment. Have not tried any VPN stuff, as I normally do not use one, but I might try that later tonight. Thanks.

Sep 28, 2022 11:51 PM in response to starlord9708

Thanks for sharing starlord9708. I wouldn‘t rule out the router just yet (my router company itself doesn‘t). Considering that in recent years a lot of new stuff came to routers (Wifi6, WPA3, …) there may still be some hickups in some registration/handshake process lying with the router OS. I can‘t tell how likely it is, but I‘m happy my router company is motivated enough to look into this matter (still on it), where all other parties say they can‘t do more. At least it may help to further narrow down the source of all this.

Sep 29, 2022 7:57 AM in response to starlord9708

Sorry, the issue IS router related if it only happens with one router. Are you using a VPN connection? Try after deleting the VPN profile (just turning off VPN is not sufficient). Does your router have MAC filtering enabled? How many devices are connected to the router? Is the router’s DHCP address allocation block large enough for all of your devices? There are other possibilities involving router incompatibility, but these are a start.

Sep 29, 2022 9:05 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

Hi lawrence,


I am not using any vpn. There is no MAC filtering enabled. At most around 4 devices connects to router at the same time.

Sometimes even 2, when i face “no internet” issue.


Never faced issue while on iOS 15 and i have been using same router for like 8 months.


The issue only started happening after iOS 16. Other devices runs fine with iOS 15 and some windows devices.


Resetting/restarting router or forgetting network doesnt fix the issue. Issue is only fixed after i retsart my iphone. Therefore issue cant be with wifi router.


If anybody here thinks otherwise, just answer me why does restarting iphone fixes the issue(for some time) but restarting router doesnt?

Sep 29, 2022 9:32 AM in response to starlord9708

I can give you a perfect example of how this can happen as I have seen and debugged it before, and that's a DHCP bug in the router.


How?


When your iPhone connects for the first time it will ask for an IP address from the DHCP server to be able to get on the network by sending a DHCPDISCOVER request. If it receives a DHCPOFFER it will continue the DHCP acquisition process, apply it and you're on the network.


However, from that point on the phone has state information and rather than ask for an address it will issue a DHCPREQUEST to renew the address.


If either side - the iPhone or the DHCP server - botches the renewal protocol, it will result in the exact behavior you are seeing.


To put it another way, imagine you are staying at hotel; when you check in you ask for a room for one night and they tell you which room you get and you move in.


But that same night you realize you need to stay an extra night, so you ask the hotel if you can get the same room for another night rather than just ask for "a room." A different sequence of events must occur at that point to get to stay in the same room another night.


If either side screws up, you will have to move out of your room by check out time and come back that afternoon to check back into the hotel.


I have seen both the DHCP server and, on occasion, macOS get it wrong, and frankly sniffing the DHCP packets from another host on the network and tracing through the protocol is the only way to find out who's at fault. Is the device sending an improper renewal? Is the server not responding with a proper DHCPACK?


No one could say without explicitly looking at the network traffic being passed.


Lawrence's response above is how you begin to diagnose what went wrong.





Sep 29, 2022 12:22 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

Hi Lawrence,


Thanks for the steps in detail.


Here are my findings when the internet again went down

•DHCP lease time is 24 hours.

•IP address before and after the internet went down was still same starting from 192.168.x.x.

• All three devices that were connected to router were assigned different IP adressess so none of them were colliding with my device IP address.

• DNS is configured to automatic. Changed it to manual and typed google DNS but still same “No internet Connection” issue.

• I dont use iCloud+ therefore private relay option isn’t available in iCloud settings.

• I didnt use VPN at the time this issue occured, but one profile was there. Deleted that profile but again issue didnt resolved.

• Had to restart iphone again to get this fixed again.

• Will connect with wifi hotspot device for a day and see if same behaviour occurs there.


Wifi „no internet connection“ issues (iOS16)

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