Why is my iPhone 14 Pro causing headache, nausea and eye strain? PWM Complaint...

Hello,


I purchased an iPhone 14 Pro recently. Ever since using it, I have fallen ill with nausea, headaches and eye strain. Even after using for sure durations (5-10 minutes).


Based on my research, this is due to the PWM (Pulse Wave Modulation) flickering which happens in iPhones (and other phones) with AMOLED screens which use PWM to dim the screen.


I currently use an iPhone 11 (standard) - which has an LCD screen with none of these issues.


Is Apple looking into any ways to fix this problem? Or at very least, continue to release phones with LCD screens for those of use with this issue? The only other phone option with LCD and 5G is the iPhone SE 2022...which is a smaller screen phone.


Thank you.




Posted on Oct 1, 2022 1:32 AM

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Posted on Sep 19, 2023 6:59 AM

I've had this issue for a while now. (about 5 years now) Took me a while to figure it out, and it's not unique to apple; it's any screen utilizing PWM for brightness control.


As an Apple user, Im sticking with an older MacBook Pro, and for phone, an iPhone 8 (still), and will most likely get an SE by the end of the year.


Most people I know are fine with it. My kids, for example, have no issues. Even friends that wear glasses for reading...not an issue.


For those that do get headaches though, there is one thing we have in common; a lazy eye. I have one eye, not that you can tell by looking at me, that is classified as "lazy". This impacts my depth perception, and typically forces my good eye to do all the work. (the brain is good at adjusting). Seeing those hidden images in a stereogram photo for example? Impossible for me. Anyway, that's what I get for not wearing the eye patch as a kid.


That said, please don't take this as medical advice. It's simply my own personal observation, and experience. All I know is, PWM controlled displays do not play well with my eyes.

Symptoms:


Eye strain/pressure (like I'm staying cross eyed too long)

Nausea/dizzy

Headaches/migraines

blurred vision


Recovery: usually takes a day


Remediation:


I just turn up the brightness. Doesn't work all the time though. iPhone 12 for example, doesn't help, and the symptoms described above tend to come on quickly (few minutes).




















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Sep 19, 2023 6:59 AM in response to WideAwake

I've had this issue for a while now. (about 5 years now) Took me a while to figure it out, and it's not unique to apple; it's any screen utilizing PWM for brightness control.


As an Apple user, Im sticking with an older MacBook Pro, and for phone, an iPhone 8 (still), and will most likely get an SE by the end of the year.


Most people I know are fine with it. My kids, for example, have no issues. Even friends that wear glasses for reading...not an issue.


For those that do get headaches though, there is one thing we have in common; a lazy eye. I have one eye, not that you can tell by looking at me, that is classified as "lazy". This impacts my depth perception, and typically forces my good eye to do all the work. (the brain is good at adjusting). Seeing those hidden images in a stereogram photo for example? Impossible for me. Anyway, that's what I get for not wearing the eye patch as a kid.


That said, please don't take this as medical advice. It's simply my own personal observation, and experience. All I know is, PWM controlled displays do not play well with my eyes.

Symptoms:


Eye strain/pressure (like I'm staying cross eyed too long)

Nausea/dizzy

Headaches/migraines

blurred vision


Recovery: usually takes a day


Remediation:


I just turn up the brightness. Doesn't work all the time though. iPhone 12 for example, doesn't help, and the symptoms described above tend to come on quickly (few minutes).




















Jan 23, 2023 6:13 PM in response to WideAwake

Nausea from iPhone 14 pro motion:

I don’t get the headaches or eye sore, but I do get nauseous looking at my 14 pro max within a matter of minutes. I found that if I enable the “limit frame rate” setting (60hz option), I’m perfectly fine. It’s weird bc I do not have that issue with my s22 ultra or pixel 7 pro, both of which has 120hz screens. It happened with the iPhone 13 Pro and I thought i was tweaking. Using the 14 pro max confirmed I just have an issue with Apple’s implementation of the higher refresh rate. My guess is it’s the constant throttling causing the inconsistent refresh rate. Open up twitter or even the settings menu on a newer pro iPhone and the newer android phones and you can see the difference in how smooth the screen scrolls. I also noticed refresh rate tests strangely top out at 60hz for some reason when the phone’s in 120hz mode.

TL:DR try disabling 120hz and see if that helps.

Mar 19, 2023 10:27 AM in response to 1luckypanda

I'm not sure what you're hoping anyone here or from Apple can do for you if the type of screen which Apple, Google, Samsung and others use in modern cell phones. If you have a medical condition which is exasperated by this type of screen technology, there is no magic button on iPhone or for that matter ANY phone or screen which will help you.


You've learned you need to use a phone with LCD screen technology. And that is because you have a medical condition which evidently makes you overly sensitive to the newer screen technologies. But to expect Apple or any manufacturer to be able to make it not an issue for you, is unrealistic.


The vast majority of people using the newer screens on cell phones, have no such sensitivities. It's unfortunate for you, you have an issue. But at least you know what to avoid the next time you buy a cell phone.


Sell your iPhone 14 if you can't use it, seems the only solution anyone could possibly offer you.


Edit: Have you spoken with your eye doctor or medical professional to see if there are any filters or glasses you can use, which will help you with this condition?

Oct 13, 2022 12:59 PM in response to Wstudiosite

Sorry but who says that PWM issues does not exist is trying to promote the phones which cause these issues, I have PWM issues with Samsung phones as well! I know that Samsung is also involved with the new iPhones. Apple could continue to make lcd screens such as SE at least 6.1 inch and perhaps a 6.7 version and the rest Amoled or OLED if they don’t or can’t resolve the headache issues. Please don’t use fake customer comments who claim PWM does not exist as this is insulting those who really want to upgrade but cannot because of Pwm. I have been to ophthalmologists had scans etc but as soon as I reverted back to my iPhone lcd 11 I was fine as well as my Honor 20 pro which is LCD. Just because there are more customers( you claim) don’t have this issue doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist it’s like saying for example that because the majority of people don’t have Lime disease does not mean it doesn’t exist, that’s just ignorance because the attitude is as I don’t have it then it means it doesn’t exist!

Sep 6, 2023 12:29 AM in response to deggie

dude, stop spreading nonsense here.

Of course, Apple has a huge leverage over Samsung display manufacturing because they are their biggest customer. If they want they can force them to put more efforts into solving PWM issue. In the worst case they can switch to another manufacture who can solve it.

You are also wrong about a huge cost it would require to solve the issue. Chinese manufacturers already addressed it and produce phones with OLED screens which have PWM at 2000 or even 3000 Hz. There are many reviews of these phones from PWM sensitive people who confirmed that it solved the issue for them. And these Huawei/Honor/Vivo phones cost less than iPhones!!

So, the issue can be solved. It is just that Apple doesn't consider it significant enough.

Oct 1, 2022 6:38 PM in response to deggie

Hi, it was in an article saying that 10% of users are sensitive to pwm. If Apple sells 100,000,000 phones then it equals to millions of people. It’s called eye strain. Not everyone is aware of where their headaches, or dry eye is coming from. Also not all oled are affected, as tv screens are not usually being dimmed all the time. And some Samsung devices have already addressed the issue through software. Mini led is a better solution but again it does use pwm too. One solution was to increasing its frequency 2000hrtz or use dc dimming. It’s a real problem and they will need to address it eventually.

Oct 29, 2022 9:34 AM in response to magsemail

An Opthamologist can confirm the sensitivity and determine where you are on the scale. They also can report your data (anonymously) to the FDA, CDC and NIH to establish data points, possibly come up with a name for this, and possibly locate grant funds to do further research. They cannot cure it or treat it at this time. But you can be part of needed research.

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