New Apple TV 4K and hi-res lossless

My goal was to stream the Master Quality audio directly from Apple Music. There are other options, but the goal was to maximize the benefit of paying Apple for this service. Apple TV aspires to be an entertainment center. One can only hope Apple issues a firmware update to handle the larger files.

It’s not that big a deal - Apple TV is primarily for playing TV content, which it does with flying colors in all formats. Additionally, the volume of originally-recorded high-resolution music worldwide is minuscule, even more so in Apple’s library. True connoisseurs of high-resolution music won’t flock to Apple Music on Apple TV anyway (or Apple anything), it’s not what it’s for. That said, use Feedback to channel your wishes, can’t hurt. Good luck!

Apple got into master quality music because competitors like Tidal, Qobuz, Amazon and others are siphoning off customers. Apple has committed to expanding their hi-res library. To each his own, but once you hear it you can appreciate the difference in sound quality. Not everyone has that need. The point in answering the question above was to save them the expense of being misled.

Not for most users, they’d need the user-interface, not to mention ATV remote to enjoy the full experience. Also, when it comes to high-speed throughput, Ethernet is no comparison to HDMI. At any rate, you’re voicing your criticism/future vision for the device for which Feedback is best. This forum is for technical issues with the box/App as specified and offered. Good luck!

Stating that AppleTV will work without being connected to a TV is part of a technical discussion, which is also correcting the erroneous statement that it won’t work. ATV owners with iPhones have the UI to fully operate it with your said iPhone - which is, again, a technical and factual statement correcting a previous erroneous statement.

I’m going to try playing Hi-Res audio from another music app on the ATV shortly to fully clear up the misinformation being shared. I’ll edit once I’ve determined if it will work or not.

Doesn’t matter what you call the file for his question. Apple may well be inappropriately calling ALAC high res lossless but they are. For that, he is correct. The question is will the new apple tv 4K support sending their “hi-res” audio format that is up to 24- bit/192kHz.

see screen shot from iphone:

Will the new 4k TV do the same?

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Exactly what I posted. ALAC is compressed audio which Apple uses for its lossless service. True uncompressed is not available on ALAC. Use AIFF (or Wav) for that. If you’re confused, that’s alright. It takes repeat reads to sort out.

Looks like you didn’t quite comprehend my posts😁. If you’re confused, that’s alright, takes repeat reads to sort out. Anyways, I stand by every one of them. As for your “information points”, hopefully you’re done with it! It’s getting tiring…

I have 3 questions, that should clear up confusion:

1. Is ALAC capable of Hi-Res Lossless streaming up to 24/192? Asking as related to the codec.
2. What is the difference between ALAC and FLAC, outside of one being the proprietary Apple codec and the other being an open standard?
3. Can the latest AppleTV transmit Hi-Res audio, from any codec or AppleTV app, as defined as higher than 24/48, to a Hifi device that is capable of converting that file and sample rate, without downsampling the audio?

OK, now I am really confused. You had mentioned yesterday that you stood by every one of your posts. With that kind of confidence, I was open and even hopeful of being wrong myself. Just to make sure:

1. The three posts you made about ALAC not being Hi-Res is not accurate? What Apple stated is in fact the answer?
2. FLAC is compressed audio, and there's no uncompressed version, despite the 3 posts you say that it is?
3. There is no way to play FLAC, WAV, or AIFF at full Hi-Res from AppleTV to a piece of HiFi gear capable of decoding? There are at least 4 posts that you say AppleTV can play in Hi-Res. You mentioned File Explorer, and I can't get it to play any file of any kind at full Hi-Res. Is there some trick or setting needed?

I’m done buddy! This discussion has already strayed way off-topic. To extend it further by responding to your questions would be violating forum rules. But they’re good questions, don’t get me wrong! Good luck in your research and finding what works for you😉👋

"hcsitas"... I don't understand why you downgrade other people's wishes to use AppleTV 4K 3gen (2022) for the utilization of Hi-Res Lossless audio files that Apple Music offers? Of course, this is a big problem that Apple does not prioritize this for its HiFi users... how difficult can it be??

I also do not understand why Apple is offering real high res files, but there is no other solution then to use a Mac to play it comfortable. For my sake they can create a remote controllable iPod Pro with 24/192 via USB port, a big storage and a good headphone amplifier for music enthusiast. But it's miserable the way it is today.

Thank you, I then stand corrected there. I just did not have another Mac laying around to try it. I only have one (a laptop), and it’s not connected to my stereo using cables.

What do you use to control Apple Music on the Mac Mini, e.g. to select music, start/stop playing etc. from your phone (or iPad)?