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Toggling a Window — a change (or bug) in Ventura? (German QWERTZ-Keybord)

Hello, since a few days I'm using Ventura 13.0.1 on a MacBook 14" M1 Max and I noticed that the shortcut for toggling a window in an app — "CMD+<" — doesn't work anymore. Now it is "CMD + ' " ... see picture below.


I suspect this is because the key position " ' " on a QWERTY keyboard is the key position "<" on a QWERTY keyboard.


As a right-handed person, I find this very annoying, as I can no longer use the shortcut with my left hand.

Maybe it's just a bug that will be fixed with the next update of Ventura.


I have not found a way to change the shortcut in the system. Maybe someone from you?


Posted on Nov 20, 2022 1:06 AM

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Posted on Nov 20, 2022 2:15 AM

I understand how this is inconvenient.

FWIW, I just tested in a mac running Big Sur and it behaves exactly in the same way, not something new in Ventura, apparently.


You could try adding your own shortcut in System Settings->Keyboard


Click the Shortcuts button, add a new one, type exactly the text as it appears in the menu (it’s in the Window menu in the Finder).

Enter the desired shortcut Command-<

Test. Let us know if it works.

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Nov 20, 2022 2:15 AM in response to MacMartyW

I understand how this is inconvenient.

FWIW, I just tested in a mac running Big Sur and it behaves exactly in the same way, not something new in Ventura, apparently.


You could try adding your own shortcut in System Settings->Keyboard


Click the Shortcuts button, add a new one, type exactly the text as it appears in the menu (it’s in the Window menu in the Finder).

Enter the desired shortcut Command-<

Test. Let us know if it works.

Toggling a Window — a change (or bug) in Ventura? (German QWERTZ-Keybord)

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