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Ventura 13.2 no longer recognizes Pioneer BDR-XD07UHD as an optical drive

The system is an Intel iMac that was just upgraded to 13.2. After updating to Ventura 13.2, the Pioneer BDR-XD07UHD blu ray drive is no longer recognized by MacOS as an optical drive. The drive was recognized correctly and worked correctly immediately prior to upgrading from 13.1 to 13.2.


I've also checked a second BDR-XD07UHD drive on the iMac, and neither is recognized as an optical drive. I've just tested both drives with an M1 Air running 13.1, and an Intel Air running 12.6.2. Both OSs recognize the drive as an optical drive, and work correctly,


Back to the 13.2 iMac system, the drive is seen on USB:


Pioneer Blu-ray Drive:

  Product ID:	0x017a
  Vendor ID:	0x08e4  (Pioneer Corporation)
  Version:	1.00
  Serial Number:	1401081112800243
  Speed:	Up to 5 Gb/s
  Manufacturer:	Pioneer Corporation
  Location ID:	0x00200000 / 3
  Current Available (mA):	900
  Current Required (mA):	8
  Extra Operating Current (mA):	0


Interestingly, if I connect the USB device to a parallels VM running Windows on the iMac, the drive is seen as an optical device and functions correctly from within Windows.


However, if I connect the USB device to a parallels VM running MacOS 13.2, the drive is seen on the USB but is still not seen as an optical device.


Looks like a regression in MacOS 13.2.

iMac (24-inch, M1, 2021, 2 ports)

Posted on Jan 25, 2023 3:56 PM

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Jan 27, 2023 6:42 PM in response to dennypage

I have the issue and reported it to Apple earlier than most of the reports came in. If you are having this issue, I highly recommend filing a report through the "Feedback Reporter" app. Apple generally does not read these forums and will not know how widespread the issue is unless you file a report. Frustrating, I know, but that's just how it works unfortunately.

Jan 27, 2023 8:38 PM in response to sjgrall

Have you ever gotten anything done by submitting feedback/suggestions? No. None of us ever have.

So, here’s an obvious question: If they don’t read them, and nothing ever comes out of providing feedback, why does the feedback site exist?

Better question: Why do you think Apple places this glaring wall between their development apparatus and their end users? This wall where we can emote, and they can easily ignore it.

Because—this is exactly the way they want it; they don’t develop products for us. They don’t see us as their customers.

We’re merely consumers; their customers are stockholders, distributors, resellers, and businesses with large contracts and enterprise site licenses. That’s the problem with these oversized tech giants who have come to exist in the absence of sensible antitrust legislation.

Jan 28, 2023 6:39 AM in response to dennypage

Pioneer seem to be conscious of the issue. Their product page for my BDR-XD07TB drive (https://pioneer-blurayodd.eu/products/bdr-xd07tb/index.php) now carries the following note:


We have confirmed that our drives are not recognized by macOS Ventura 13.2 released by Apple on January 23. We are currently investigating this symptom. We would like to ask our customers who are using our drives to refrain from updating to macOS Ventura 13.2.


So we can only hope that their investigations will involve some liaison with Apple, which is probably our best hope of a fix in the near future (whether issued by Apple or Pioneer).

Jan 28, 2023 7:11 AM in response to prvincent

Based on an initial follow up response I received from Apple support, it appears that they are also aware of the issue. I received this note from my Apple Support Tech, "I received the response we were looking for, and was hoping to catch you sooner," and the response I was looking for was that engineering was aware of an issue introduced in Ventura 13.2, but I won't be able to confirm the actual details of the follow up until Monday.


As for Feedback Assistant, it can't hurt to submit a ticket. The support tech was able to see my feedback ticket on his end. Although his and my understanding of Feedback Assistant is that it is generally used for reporting on OS updates that are still in beta. Personally, I think the more helpful thing would be to try and get a tech on the phone.


The only way to get this problem solved, whether it is through Apple or through Pioneer updating its firmware, is by reporting the problem to each company. Clearly, Pioneer is aware of the issue now according to prvincent, and Apple is aware of the issue based on the tickets some of us have submitted. If you want to scream into the void or tell us whose problem it is, fine, but that doesn't help any of us get any closer to a solution.

Jan 28, 2023 8:41 AM in response to VikingOSX

VikingOSX wrote:

Apple is not responsible for Pioneer drive compatibility, it is Pioneer's responsibility. Somebody just wanted to get you off the phone or chat session by pointing at Apple.


Of course Apple is responsible. And Apple will tell you that. A prior known working configuration that unintentionally stopped working with the MacOS 13.2 release. This is a simple regression in MacOS, not the result of a change by Pioneer. I expect that Apple will own the issue, and fix it, because that's what a good vendor does.

Jan 30, 2023 9:46 AM in response to dennypage

It appears that Pioneer has released new MacOS firmware for several of the newer models. If any of you are having trouble with the BDR-X13U-S or X13UBK, I'd go check out the Pioneer firmware page.


My troubleshooting call today with Apple Support involved a lot of program uninstallation and testing. No changes to report. I am going to create a fresh 13.2 APFS boot volume sometime this week if I can find the time and test the drive from scratch (hopefully removing all doubt that it is an issue with the 13.2 update). Fingers crossed that Pioneer sorts it out via firmware update before I even have to get around to that though.

Feb 2, 2023 4:09 PM in response to dennypage

Just got off the phone with Apple Support (2/2/22). They directed me to this discussion. I upgraded my 2017 iMac directly from Big Sur to 13.2, and found that my Pioneer BDR-XD08S wouldn't mount or even show up in Disk Utility. Pioneer advised me to take it up with Apple... The upshot (per Apple Support) is that the problem may be resolved with 13.3, or Pioneer might come up with an updated driver-- or maybe somebody in this discussion will chime in with a solution. Fortunately for me, my BR drive isn't mission-critical, so I can wait a month or two without too much angst. Otherwise, I guess I'd just have to go out and buy myself another Blu-Ray.

Feb 5, 2023 3:31 AM in response to hueyo

Yeah, coming back to 13.1 isn't an option I'd take. First, its not like you'd be still on Monterey so you could get the future security updates, so reverting to 13.1 means you'll be stuck on this version without any security updates hoping the fix will come sooner than later. Second, the trouble to go back isn't worth the time you'll waste doing it considering a fix is probably coming in the coming weeks.


Unless you use your drive every single day and can't live without it, I'd just stay on 13.2 and wait at this point. The poineer advice is just useful if you're still on 13,1 and didn't update yet, so yeah, if someone is in this position, I'd recommend to just stay there and wait, otherwise, I'd not recommend to reverting back just for this - at least if you're still wanting to stay on Ventura.

Ventura 13.2 no longer recognizes Pioneer BDR-XD07UHD as an optical drive

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