2020 iMac is acting weird, won,t respect "csrutil disable"

Booted in "Recovery mode" twice. made sure that "csrutil disable" was entered correctly.


I want to change 1 permission on my external boot SSD.


But I still get this warning:


"The operation can’t be completed because you don’t have the necessary permission."


UNIX user for years, but this is annoying.


Help is appreciated.

iMac 27″

Posted on Feb 6, 2023 1:45 AM

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Feb 6, 2023 9:52 AM in response to obimk1

obimk1 wrote:

You can switch off SIPS in recovery mode with the terminal command: "csrutil disable". However this fails for me, because certain parts of my external boot SSD stay "read only", despite that SIPS has been switched off in recovery mode.

The first one is probably the most relevant, but providing the second link to include other previous changes:


Signed system volume security in iOS, iPadOS, and macOS - Apple Support


About the read-only system volume in macOS Catalina or later - Apple Support


Feb 6, 2023 7:57 AM in response to obimk1

obimk1 wrote:

I understand the benefits of added security, but as UNIX user I knew how to circumvent that. Now I can't even run a speed disk test program (even from the Apple store!)

The app should allow you to select a folder where you have permission to access for the test to be performed. I know the Black Magic Disk Speed Test app works this way (click the settings gear like icon in the center of the app to access options). Users are only allowed to modify folders within the "Users" folder of a macOS boot drive. You can create a folder there and modify its permissions if you are testing from another macOS boot drive. There is no need to run a speed test on the root of the drive.


Feb 6, 2023 5:56 AM in response to John Galt

I know Apple has beefed up security,and you can switch off this security.


Under OS Monterey this was still possible


I wanted to change "everyone" from "read only" to"read & write"


Apple document on this:


Apple Developer Documentation


I understand the benefits of added security, but as UNIX user I knew how to circumvent that. Now I can't even run a speed disk test program (even from the Apple store!)

Feb 6, 2023 8:19 AM in response to obimk1

You're welcome. Your concern as I understand it is that you want to install and run an app on an external drive. That is a completely normal thing to do on a Mac. It is not weird at all, but disabling SIP is inappropriate and unrelated and a textbook illustration of The XY Problem.


To install an app from the Mac App Store, boot from that external drive, and then install and launch that app. I personally confirm that it works. Your Mac is working exactly as it is designed to work. Re-enabling SIP will keep it that way.


If I have misunderstood your concern please explain.

Feb 6, 2023 8:57 AM in response to John Galt

I have been booting from the external SSD from august 2021. Added apps from the appstore, but I also added apps not from the appstore. I used the csrutil disable (disable SIPS) in Monterey. SIPS is a known as a MacOS extra security feature (what I understand is that SIPS makes certain parts of UNIX OS "read-only")


You can switch off SIPS in recovery mode with the terminal command: "csrutil disable". However this fails for me, because certain parts of my external boot SSD stay "read only", despite that SIPS has been switched off in recovery mode.

Feb 6, 2023 9:09 AM in response to obimk1

... However this fails for me, because certain parts of my external boot SSD stay "read only", despite that SIPS has been switched off in recovery mode.


Correct, and what I have been attempting to explain to you.


Apple's developer documentation also explains SIP and the circumstances for which temporarily disabling it may be appropriate.

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