macOS 13.3 - USB devices become unusable after a few hours

Hi there. After updating to macOS 13.3 I've had some weird issues with USB devices becoming unusable unless I reboot my iMac. This starts happening after a few hours of display sleep. It's possible this could still happen without display sleep, but I haven't tried leaving the iMac idle with the display on.


Observations

  • All USB devices are no longer usable (MIDI keyboard, Wacom tablet, Focusrite audio interface, external hard drives)
  • At no time are any processes shown as not responding in Activity Monitor
  • It doesn't happen immediately and it seems to happen after the display has been asleep for several hours (usually overnight) - I have "Prevent automatic sleeping when the display is off" turned on
  • I usually notice this is happening when my Wacom tablet becomes unusable, and disconnecting/reconnecting has no effect - it also isn't usable over Bluetooth
  • Connecting a Magic Mouse over Bluetooth works fine


Once this starts happening, other weird things happen as well.

  • Logging out/rebooting results in a hang, though the cursor is still movable
  • Rebooting must be done with a forced reboot using the power button
  • Quitting an app could result in the app freezing
  • Opening an app could result in the app freezing before fully launching


Things I've tried

  • Recovery mode First Aid on the startup disk SSD (no problems found)
  • Disconnecting external hard drives (HDDs) to check if it's a failing external drive causing problems (no effect) - the two external drives are not showing any problems in general but they are around 5 years old. The drives are currently still disconnected and have been so for a day as of writing this.


Connected devices (iMac 27 inch 2020)

  • Two external HDDs connected directly to the iMac's USB ports
  • Apple Watch charger connected to a USB-C port
  • USB-A hub connected to a USB-C port (4 port, Keymox brand)
  • Wacom tablet connected to the USB hub
  • Focusrite audio interface connected to the USB hub
  • MIDI keyboard connected to the USB hub
  • I've had all of these devices for 2 or more years without problems


Any ideas as to what might be happening? Any other info I can provide? I'll be contacting Apple Support this week as well, as I do have AppleCare coverage remaining.

iMac 27″

Posted on Apr 2, 2023 6:54 AM

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Posted on May 3, 2023 4:33 PM

During my testing (recorded in my various updates to this thread), I found that it happens more often when I have my external hard drives connected. However, it still happens even without them connected. With the HDs connected it will happen almost daily. Without them, it happens maybe once a week.


The constant thing that I notice when this problem occurs is that the "makequeues" process is taking up a lot of CPU (the most of any process at the time). This also started when I updated to 13.3. The subsequent update 13.3.1 didn't fix it, and it never happened before 13.3.

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Jun 22, 2023 12:18 PM in response to hero_a

Just wanted to pile on and say that I am seeing this problem as well. I see it probably 3-4 days a week on my work machine. I have an Intel i7 16-inch 2019 Macbook Pro, and this problem started sometime around the 13.2 or 13.3 release.


It most commonly manifests as a failure to wake up from sleep, with the display staying off. Sometimes it occurs while I am actively using the machine. makequeues taking 100% CPU is a surefire symptom of the problem. If I kill makequeues, the machine immediately locks up hard.


I have a yubikey plugged into USB, and a CalDigit TS3 Plus plugged in via thunderbolt. The TS3 has built-in ethernet (attached via thunderbolt) and an SD card reader and audio interface (attached via USB). In addition, hanging off ports from that I have connected a second display (DisplayPort), an iPhone 12 (USB), and a audio technica mic (USB). This dock also delivers power to the laptop.


With the dock, I am connected to my network via both ethernet and wifi, with ethernet is the primary interface. I've noticed that when my machine fails to wake up, I can still ping it over wifi, but not ethernet. In console and dmesg logs, it looks like there are networking-related buffers filled up and various actions failing due to lack of space. It's been unclear to me if that's a cause or a symptom.


I can ssh into the machine over the wifi interface, and sure enough, I see makequeues using 100% CPU. It doesn't appear that anything I do in terms of disconnecting devices can make it recover at that point. A power off is the only way out.


I haven't tried unplugging things individually yet, but when I unplug the dock entirely I don't seem to see the hang the following morning, but I don't have enough data points to feel confident in this. It seems like it's not a definitive device that's causing the problem for folks.


For those of you seeing this, are you all on Intel macs? Or do Apple silicon macs have this problem too?

Apr 2, 2023 7:32 AM in response to Mikel085

Thanks! The HDDs have their own power supply, however the 4-port hub is powered by the iMac (connected by USB-C to one of the Thunderbolt ports). The hub itself then powers a Wacom tablet, a small MIDI keyboard, and the audio interface. The audio interface delivers some power to a microphone.


I've had all of these devices connected for years and have only now had this problem though. Basically immediately after updating to 13.3 the other day.


I'll take a look at those resources you posted. I appreciate it.


For now, I'll try removing the hub itself and connecting devices directly or via Bluetooth and see how that goes.

Apr 2, 2023 8:12 AM in response to hero_a

I've had a similar issue with Bluetooth on a Mac Studio with a Studio Display, after updating to 13.3. In my case, what happens is that my non-Apple Bluetooth devices, while still functioning properly, are displayed as 'Not Connected' in System Settings. Also I can no longer use my mouse and keyboard on my iPad by 'pushing through' the edge of my monitor onto the iPad screen, and the iPad no longer appears in the Display settings. Finally, my Apple Watch will no longer unlock the Mac once it has gone into screen saver mode, and I must manually enter the password. The only way I've been able to restore these functions, has been to plug in an old, corded keyboard and mouse, then turn off Bluetooth, restart the computer, and turn Bluetooth back on. But the problem reoccurs after shutting down the computer for the night, and restarting the next morning.

May 4, 2023 5:57 AM in response to hero_a

I was able to get a ps -ef to run while experiencing the hang in progress. The exact call to makequeues is:


/System/Library/SystemConfiguration/PrinterNotifications.bundle/Contents/MacOS/makequeues -z


You can run this manually when system is working normally.


Part of the output of this command is information on all attached USB devices - so I guess that is the connection with USB. I don't know whether high CPU in makequeues is the cause of the hang we're seeing or whether it is a symptom (caused by it trying to interrogate USB devices which have gone into a strange state).


Still not really any closer to understanding what is going on here. The lack of errors in logs - and the fact that you only have a minute to poke about before the system becomes unusable makes it pretty tough to debug.


I did notice last time that even when everything else was hung, the zoom call I was on still worked (minus USB camera). It's certainly a strange state the system gets into when this problem is occurring.

Jun 22, 2023 12:49 PM in response to eojwahs

I'm on an Intel iMac.


I have a feeling that if anything whatsoever is connected to USB, this problem would eventually happen. For me this started after 13.3 and I haven't added any new USB devices into my set up in a long time. So it's highly unlikely that the problem is any actual device. Something must have changed in macOS to introduce a bug of some kind.

Oct 7, 2023 10:19 AM in response to hero_a

Update: And of course, it's happened again. Sonoma didn't fix it. At some point overnight, the "makequeues" process did its thing again and all USB activity stopped.


Also when this happens, I can no longer bring up any webpage in Safari. It will just stay on the "connecting" state endlessly. Chrome seems to work fine.


I suppose I'll call Apple again.


Last time I called them they said "makequeues" is related to printer functions. I haven't owned a printer in years. This particular iMac has never had a printer attached to it. Although the data on it is from a Time Machine restore from an older iMac, which in turn was restored from a MacBook Pro which occasionally had a printer attached. But that was many years ago. I don't have any printer software installed anymore, unless something is hiding somewhere. If anyone has some insight on this, please let me know.

May 3, 2023 4:29 PM in response to jonbboy

Interesting that makequeues was doing high CPU for you as well! That's something that always happens when my problems occur. I don't know what this process does and I've tried googling it, but I can't find any answers. Do you know what it does?


Also, if I try to reboot or shut down, my iMac just hangs. I always have to force a power off.


Interestingly, it happens less often when I don't have my external hard drives connected. If I have even one of them connected, it tends to happen almost daily.

May 4, 2023 6:11 AM in response to jonbboy

Interesting! So it seems definitely USB related. I currently have 3 devices plugged in: A Focusrite audio interface, a MIDI keyboard, and an APC UPS.


Just to recap, the problem occurs almost daily when I have my external USB hard drives connected. So something about these drives makes the problem happen more often. The drives themselves are in off-the-shelf cases (I bought the drives and cases separately). One drive is from a 2013 iMac. The other drive was bought about 5 years ago. They seem to operate fine, so perhaps it's the drive interface or the USB cables (there are a couple of chew marks from my cat lol). Without the drives connected I've gone at least a week without seeing the problem.


However I just have to point out again that none of this happened before 13.3. So perhaps there's something glitchy about how 13.3 handles USB activity.


And since it's happening to other people, I feel like it's probably not actually any external hardware problem. But then how do we even fix it without Apple fixing whatever process is hanging?


I still haven't called Apple support. But I will try calling them by the end of the week. Is there anything else you can share that they might find useful?

May 19, 2023 7:34 AM in response to jonbboy

I was really hoping 13.4 would fix it. I haven't updated yet but I'll post an update if I see any difference once I do.


Do you think it matters what USB device is attached? Or do you suspect it's any USB device? The main difference I've seen is that it happens more often with my HDDs attached, but it still happens without them. I have yet to try having nothing attached, though that's kind of hard as I need the audio interface.

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