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MDM on personal iPhone - Businesses, unauthorized developer activity HELP!

I am a personal 'User' I have cycled through many hours and days with support. No one knows what is going on. Most likely because I am never able to speak with someone that understands the Enterprise platform. I feel this is happening via my carrier- but Fraud sent me to Tech support. Tech support told me my phone is hacked and to file a police report.

In combination I suspect that MDM is a gateway for an external developer to access my phone via various methods: webkit, Xcode, Apple Store Connect, SDK

I am about 99.99% sure I know why, but that is something that I will not disclose because most likely all of my activity is monitored; despite the very strict privacy settings I try to maintain.


Symptoms:

  1. My apps will sometimes tell me they did not come from the App Store (Maps, FindMyiPhone, etc..)
  2. When I make an attempt to chat with Apple support I receive a message to Use Messages to Connect with Business. When I have my iPhone in LOCKDOWN mode I receive a message that I cannot use Messages for Business when my device is locked down.
  3. I only have one device. However, I am sharing across devices- many times or I have the option to. The choice is not grayed out.
  4. I am unable to perform an Emergency Reset because I am usually sharing something - Notes, Home, Health, Books....
  5. I do not use iCloud Drive due to multiple security concerns. Almost every time that I double check those settings apps show that they are using iCloud Drive. (Game Center, Health or Fitness, Notes, Books, Apple Support, Wallet) While clicking to turn OFF syncing I have had a battle with it changing right back before my eyes. (I have screen recordings)
  6. Game Center will come on even though I have strict Screen Time settings.
  7. I am generally either sharing, or my phone is gathering data from Health; even though that privacy option is supposed to keep that from happening.
  8. Sometimes I am unable to even sign out of my phone due to 'restrictions'.
  9. I have 'Share with Family' sometimes

*Those are only a few symptoms. That is minus the horror I see from the extraction of information I backed up into Kali Linux

As I have mentioned I have spent many many many hours with Support. One Senior Director did spend time Googling the services that show up in my Analytics. I have even uploaded screen shots and documents, but I never heard back.

I REALLY REALLY need help here.

I will add attachments. They won't be nearly the amount I have. I am begging!!!



iPhone 13, iOS 16

Posted on Apr 2, 2023 2:32 PM

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Posted on Apr 3, 2023 6:45 AM

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any help and the ones that will respond, will tell you you are either crazy or you can't be hacked unless you have your device to someone.


For what it is worth I have been dealing with this and here is what I have learned; you need to delete your old apple id's and confirm that they are deleted. You may not be logged in to any (neither was I) but it has something programmed into the IOKIT boot so you cannot reset the NVRAM properly, leaving find my process to look as if the activation lock is on.


Make appointments for each apple product to have a firmware/software update through DFU mode and make sure it is DFU because a factory restore will not remove the cache that is lingering in the files. This should all be done at the same time otherwise it will talk to the other device and reestablish itself.


The factor reset you are doing doesn't work because it does not empty the trash and it seemingly blocks any terminal command to do so as well.


Before you boot up your computer(s) & phone(s) delete and confirm you have deleted all of your previous apple id's. Write down the code it provided to delete the id because chances are you will have to call to

confirm its deletion.


If you have a google ID, check to see if you are enrolled in any trial based workspace or fire base programs. Workspace allows device control as well.


I have changed our TV's and printers but it still seems to latch on to any printer so now we do not print. Debilitating to say the least.


I believe that there are enough of us out there to confirm that this problem exists but apple will not respond until they have fixed it. I know it sucks. Two factor everything and I wouldn't suggest any external usb or thunderbolt security keys.


I also would not suggest any products other than apple. That will only make your situation worse.. even the keyboards because it will load a generic driver onto your device. Only use apple wires as well. I am definitely not an apple advocate, only sharing what I have come to accept and learn.


You may have to go line by line in settings on your iPhone to turn off everything that you do not use and if there is an arrow on it, click to make sure there is not an opportunity to bypass your defaults. The Mac computer is the same and there are probably about 100 Plists that will try to alter your default settings so do not take anything for granted until you have clicked through it all. Plists are just preference and apple will tell you that it does not mean that they are being used. That is absolutely correct but the Plists I have seen start with NVRAM and a fmm (find my

mac activation) which is huge problem.


for whatever reason it uses nfc and mdm BUT mdm does get removed later on during the process. It keeps respawning. So it isn't necessarily MDM as much as it is trying to be so I presume that there is some detail in the MDM program that helps it get what it needs.


The shared cache you are seeing is at best guess, all of the info it has collected on you and will keep looping together. This is just a guess but I have been watching it on mine as well. I could 100 percent be wrong but I believe the cache is what keeps this process communicating between devices.


There are enough of us out there with this problem. I am sure that we have a common thread but I have no idea what it could be. I just know that no one is going to help me or my family and I am just going to have to do my best to keep my kids safe.


I could bring a new computer into this house and within ten minutes watch it try to harvest my old apple ids, while Bluetooth sniffing and try to connect to something nonstop. Eventually, it gets back in and the new id becomes corrupt, I delete it and start again hoping the last apple update resolved this issue. Two years later and I am headed back to the Apple Store today to pick up a couple of devices.


I wish someone had better news for the both of us but this is the best advice I can give you.

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Feb 26, 2024 11:03 AM in response to AgentDragonfly

I’m trying to follow you but I can’t press the follow button it’s erased out and I can’t like your post either.


I’m have been going through this for a year. Everything is hacked. I have nothing. My bank watched for a month and believes me. I got an iPad luckily but it immediately got hacked as soon as I set it up. I have had a lot of information. I am sick of being looked at like I’m a crazy person. I really like to get a hold of everybody that said this happened to . I know where to talk safely I know how to figure out a lot of things but I really like to talk to some other people this is ****. ****. ****. I can’t even type without being harassed. I’m going to look And see if I can find any of this group.


I have an iPad 10 completely up-to-date I have touch ID I haven’t bothered in ambling anything besides two factor but it always gets deleted anyways. A lot of good the iCloud email address does because they won’t give it back to me . Recovery days I never get an email to say I’ve proven it’s me it doesn’t take a genius I’ve had account for over over over 10 years but the hackers get to spend more time in my business than I do. The thing

I hate the most, stealing and copying my Stories and letters and blogs participation, rough drafts, short stories.

my contact list.

I have impeccable credentials or had, I don’t know what’s going on my social accounts I can’t even imagine.


I don’t know what kind of delusional world that some of these moderators live in but you only need to go listen to the Washington Post podcast the very same thing happened to a Washington Post journalist, it’s all documented . The fact what this is. yes, very sadly , because I love apple products but I can use them very well right now , they have done it isn’t even hacking. It’s outright theft.



Feb 26, 2024 11:22 AM in response to achoo274

I apologise for my spelling mistakes I didn’t have time to do spellcheck I’ve got that blue recording microphone that’s supposed to be dictation. I’m pretty sure it’s a whisper product made by chat gpt. I saw a little symbol on it earlier year last year. I saw the same symbol over at the chat GPT site. The bast-rds keylogger. I don’t bother calling Apple anymore. Sometimes it but most the time it’s not.

Do you know that they mimic logging into my bank? Spoofed and made it look like a bank.

My friend that had this happened to her she says it’s not a bank it’s not a bank usually she doubts me , So I don’t believe anything anymore.


This just isn’t right. I feel pretty alone. The people in town here that this happened to have lost contact with them because my phone got stolen from the bottom level huge group.


I don’t think people understand the fact that it takes six times longer to do anything but that you’re doing something it undoes other things.


2023 I was supposed to go to school, while dealing with my health crisis.


there is no Apple Store here, I have no second device, I have got it cyber cleaned. I had to pay to get it cybercleaned. I’ve changed my Sim card I’ve begged my cell phone provider to help, I’m said to them ; do not think it’s weird that I have 78 GB used of my data and I have the toggle off?

This is theft. Worse. I’ve been saying what this is for over here and I was never talking about any of the stuff before.

This was zero day. I did nothing. I thought I had but I since spoke to the party I thought was the culprit because they have been cloned/ overlays relentlessly.

Even when the advertise doesn’t see.



But they’re all through the Wi-Fi. I got locked out of my phone, I couldn’t call anybody.

I have a landline now I’ll see how long this lasts.


I reported it.


Feb 26, 2024 1:57 PM in response to celliott147

Nothing. But on my Mac air I’ve run the commands (lmsk??? sfltool dumpbtm ps xawww | grep.. ?? I forget) and found MDM (force time and date etc) and there are install logs for random stuff, a little above my head, in the system info, so two cheers for Settings.app. It gets worse since I’ve tried to hire outside help because they always muddle things up with their own stuff instead of just looking into the machine. (I’m suspicious of them now sad:( since I have experienced so many DDOS attacks…)


btw what happens when you got to activity monitor and look for controlCenter>Wifi>network or whatever. Do you have 3, maybe 4 processes running like ControlCenter>WiFi, and (CC>WiFi) and ((WiFi)) and (((WiFi))) & ((((CC>network>wifi)))) etc ?

Feb 27, 2024 4:42 PM in response to ChSDude

I’m just now seeing this thread and have had the same horrific experience! I have not been through all of the posts yet before my urge to comment because you describe the mental stress this has caused. Going on two years now trying to figure this out on my own and in my own time has been a lonely journey for the simple fact that it’s “too much” for most people because if you mention why you always have an updated email address or why you did not get their message or email you get the crazy raised eyebrow look and seen as insane!

it can not be ignored because it effects your life every day! I have lost access to email accounts and social media profiles and accounts yet I see them show up and have no access to them at all! When I communicate to the source nothing is ever done.

Apple is always friendly and trys but after they learn the scope of the problem, I don’t hear back or I get disconnected.

i have developer privileges I should not and did not know until things began really messing up and strange email accounts and media profiles were created using my identity. Apple ID has been stolen or I get locked out and have had no choice but to wipe device and reset. With 4 iPhones now and a MacBook Air M1.


I could go on and on about all of the things I have found out but no one would listen.


I have recently discovered too the nfc technology and how it can transfer data between devices without needing power or to authorize connection like Bluetooth. It runs on minimal charge and low latency. Can’t transfer large amounts of data at a time but if you set up a automation triggered to pull at certain times throughout the day it can pretty much act as a monitor of your data flow building a entire investigation of your every move.

creepy?? **** yeah and I’m still stuck and without control over my own privacy and I can’t communicate normally because of it. It has really taken over my world and it is disgusting!


I don’t understand why it is happening to me personally either. I want to know if anyone with same experience has found more of us struggling with this and if there is a forum.

I can post some screenshots as well


Feb 28, 2024 10:54 PM in response to T3ddy19

WOW, I've been dealing with this exact same issue for about 3 months now. Every single day has been an emotional rollercoaster and my life has been completely torn apart from this issue. I live in fear because I know that I am being watched and tracked through my devices, and the worst part is that no one believes me. I have had my iPad and iPhone13 disabled by RAT trojans. I got the new iPhone15 and within 10 minutes of leaving the store my device was under attack, little did I know, my bluetooth in my car and my AppleID were the problem....that was before I really started digging and doing my research. When I try to explain what is going on people look at me like I'm talking gibberish, I've been at the point where I have questioned my own sanity, but I've seen the changes happen on the screen!!! Ive contacted every agency out there. I can't even be identified for a credit report with my social security # HELP!!!!!

Mar 1, 2024 3:09 PM in response to katiebeth_19

Hi Katie,


it sounds like your already on the right path with blue tooth and your apple id. If you buy a new phone, dont use any of the old apple ids you have had, be careful of email and sms attacks and most of all, make sure no settings can be changed while your phone is locked / unattended. and of course wifi too, if you haven't check out apple developer programs, basically all they need is your apple ID and device numbers and access to your phone when they have the password. Your in it for the long haul, but don't fret - you'll get there!


J.

Mar 22, 2024 12:26 AM in response to AgentDragonfly

Just wanted to say you’re not alone in this. It’s easy to get paranoid and start to question yourself. It’s good to have doubts. It shows you’re not crazy. But follow your intuition. Try and show grace and compassion to those whose responses are short or dismissive or sometimes downright cruel. It’s intentional. This type of stuff has happened before and now in the age of the internet it’s reached new levels. Get rid of your iPhone. I’m doing the same. I miss land lines and flip phones and dial up computer..

Mar 23, 2024 11:28 AM in response to gravityfed

i've had same issue senior support hangs up on me een sealing with this for 5 years now had 5 brand new iphones quit working an ipad as well support sets up a call from senior advisor i explain issue and soon as i do they hang up on me currently out over 10,000 dollars in brand new personal iphones .hired a private investigator team and all information they have collected goes all the way back to a developer from apple hacking me and trying to blackmail me for 1500 dollars for some reason they tracked the call back to austin texas and next week they are flying there to confront the developer who did this wish me luck this is a major fraud and cyber theft issue and will hopefully end up throwing developer in prison and refunding all my money i've been ripped off for for last 5 years but we will see next week just wish the developer would of came forward on there own and turned themselves in but we will see come next week have documented everything since day one 5 years ago

Mar 23, 2024 11:31 AM in response to T3ddy19

my emergency reset won't work says try again matter several times over last two weeks phone is shareing g info on its own i change settings go to bed wake up phone changes back all by itself it's cyber theft on the highiest level 5 iphones an ipad all quit working within 1/3 month us after purchase and apple senior support hangs up on me after i exsplain what's going on

Mar 25, 2024 9:02 AM in response to Funnyguy52

Funnyguy52 wrote:

i've had same issue senior support hangs up on me een sealing with this for 5 years now had 5 brand new iphones quit working an ipad as well support sets up a call from senior advisor i explain issue and soon as i do they hang up on me currently out over 10,000 dollars in brand new personal iphones .hired a private investigator team and all information they have collected goes all the way back to a developer from apple hacking me and trying to blackmail me for 1500 dollars for some reason they tracked the call back to austin texas and next week they are flying there to confront the developer who did this wish me luck this is a major fraud and cyber theft issue and will hopefully end up throwing developer in prison and refunding all my money i've been ripped off for for last 5 years but we will see next week just wish the developer would of came forward on there own and turned themselves in but we will see come next week have documented everything since day one 5 years ago

There appears to be something wrong with your keyboard. The period key only seems to have worked once and there are no capitals at the beginning of sentences. This makes your post very hard to understand.

May 17, 2024 7:56 PM in response to AgentDragonfly

Me too! All of the above. And they use Xcode & DT tools to make “user” & bundle versions of my apps to manipulate the settings that I can change. Use a lot of open source software. I believe that somehow they’re using my biometrics because sometimes my face scans only when I open up settings altogether. Which I’m sure they’re using somewhere else. Whenever I use screen time settings for and need more time, it always asked me twice. Like there is two screens. I find that it’s being mirrored to a PC and doing all kinds of things and has known about this since, November September 2022 and can’t get any help. Scary. The police said I called out over 10 times because they were coming. My home also only advised me to make a IC3 complaint. Which I made one back in 2022 and took screenshots of it. It made another in 2023 and that pages are different. Every site I visit is different than it should be, be acceptable. We spend on these devices and for their service just for people to steal them and have more access than we do.


also, if you have T-Mobile and it says in cellular settings that your plan is whitelist and regular usage. That means it’s only tallying and adding up the usage that is not streaming. So that is an in accurate amount of data it shows used. I went from 182 GB which I never used anywhere close the month before it turned to white and regular and then it went back to normal around 50.

May 27, 2024 4:50 AM in response to T3ddy19

I, too, have been dealing with this since 2022- that I know of!! SAME THING as everyone else. One thing I haven’t seen mentioned yet (haven’t been through all posts yet) was Virtual Ethernet Connection. Also when I did a whatsmyip search, I was told I was Enterprise Hosting. Someone tried to tell me it’s bc Apple is the enterprise 🙄. Also, a lot of it doesn’t necessarily go to MDM, I’ve found more to point me towards a Educational/School Managed Device, def some with Microsoft excel, edge, I could go on for days when it comes to PC. I’m sure there are many more but here’s a few I hadn’t seen mentioned.


Oh! There’s something with SOS mode. I’ve been locked out devices and they were stuck on SOS mode- when they still at cellular service.


It’s awful. I could write a book with all of the negative consequences to this but the biggest for me going through something so devastating and not having the support of loved ones. Bc if they don’t understand it, it can’t be real. Especially bc they consider themselves to be so much better. Their ego gets in the way. Makes you feel very isolated and alone Wish this would allow me to post my personal info bc I would love to talk to you all outside of the community. Compare notes and offer support.

MDM on personal iPhone - Businesses, unauthorized developer activity HELP!

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