Apple 4k TV Connection Question

I have an 4k Apple TV, a Yamaha 7.1 surround sound amp, and a Vizio 4k TV. I'm trying to figure out the best way to connect these. From what I understand, if I connect them to get 4k/HDR/Dolby video, I'll lose the 5.1/7.1/Dolby audio, and if I connect them to hear 5.1/7.1/Dolby audio, I'll lose the 4k/HDR/Dolby video. Does anyone have this same issue and, if so, jow did you take care of it?


Thanks,

Lloyd

Apple TV 4K (3rd generation)

Posted on Apr 20, 2023 7:40 PM

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Posted on Apr 21, 2023 1:22 AM

Please specify the models amp and TV. It depends on their passthrough capabilities (usually listed in their manuals).


① If the TV doesn’t have support ‘PCM Multichannel’ audio passthrough,

and if the amp doesn’t support ‘4K HDR Dolby Vision’ passthrough,

then you may want to avoid passthrough altogether, by using an adapter that can split in HDMI 2.0 video and HDMI 2.0 audio: HDfury Arcana.

Apple TV →[HDMI]→ HDfury Arcana →[HDMI-video]→ TV

↘︎[HDMI-audio “eARC”]→ Yamaha amp


② If the amp doesn’t support ‘4K HDR Dolby Vision’ passthrough,

but the TV does have support for ‘PCM Multichannel’ audio passthrough (eARC),

then you can connect as:

Apple TV →[HDMI]→ TV →[HDMI eARC]→ Yamaha amp


③ If the amp doesn’t support ‘4K HDR Dolby Vision’ passthrough,

but the TV does have support for compressed ‘Dolby Digital 5.1’ audio passthrough (ARC),

then you can connect as:

Apple TV →[HDMI]→ TV →[HDMI ARC]→ Yamaha amp (with ATV set to Dolby Digital 5.1 output)


You will not be getting Dolby Atmos audio when a 7.1 amp is connected. Apple TV detects what connected equipment is capable of, and hides unsupported features. You would need an AV receiver that is Atmos-enabled to use that audio format.

You will only get 4K HDR Dolby Vision from Apple TV, when connected to a screen that supports 4K HDR Dolby Vision. Screens with more modest capabilities will cause the Apple TV to hide some functionality.


Use HDMI cables with bandwidth ratings that match the ports that they connect to. You do not want the chosen cable to be a limiting factor. The least of the ports and cables capability determines what bandwidth is available for content.

With HDMI 1.3–1.4 port on either side as lowest standard, 10 Gbps rated cables would be sufficient.

With HDMI 2.0 port on either side as lowest standard, 18 Gbps rated cables would be sufficient.

With HDMI 2.1 ports on both sides, 48 Gbps rated cables would support all HDMI 2.1 features.

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Apr 21, 2023 1:22 AM in response to Lloyd Lathrop

Please specify the models amp and TV. It depends on their passthrough capabilities (usually listed in their manuals).


① If the TV doesn’t have support ‘PCM Multichannel’ audio passthrough,

and if the amp doesn’t support ‘4K HDR Dolby Vision’ passthrough,

then you may want to avoid passthrough altogether, by using an adapter that can split in HDMI 2.0 video and HDMI 2.0 audio: HDfury Arcana.

Apple TV →[HDMI]→ HDfury Arcana →[HDMI-video]→ TV

↘︎[HDMI-audio “eARC”]→ Yamaha amp


② If the amp doesn’t support ‘4K HDR Dolby Vision’ passthrough,

but the TV does have support for ‘PCM Multichannel’ audio passthrough (eARC),

then you can connect as:

Apple TV →[HDMI]→ TV →[HDMI eARC]→ Yamaha amp


③ If the amp doesn’t support ‘4K HDR Dolby Vision’ passthrough,

but the TV does have support for compressed ‘Dolby Digital 5.1’ audio passthrough (ARC),

then you can connect as:

Apple TV →[HDMI]→ TV →[HDMI ARC]→ Yamaha amp (with ATV set to Dolby Digital 5.1 output)


You will not be getting Dolby Atmos audio when a 7.1 amp is connected. Apple TV detects what connected equipment is capable of, and hides unsupported features. You would need an AV receiver that is Atmos-enabled to use that audio format.

You will only get 4K HDR Dolby Vision from Apple TV, when connected to a screen that supports 4K HDR Dolby Vision. Screens with more modest capabilities will cause the Apple TV to hide some functionality.


Use HDMI cables with bandwidth ratings that match the ports that they connect to. You do not want the chosen cable to be a limiting factor. The least of the ports and cables capability determines what bandwidth is available for content.

With HDMI 1.3–1.4 port on either side as lowest standard, 10 Gbps rated cables would be sufficient.

With HDMI 2.0 port on either side as lowest standard, 18 Gbps rated cables would be sufficient.

With HDMI 2.1 ports on both sides, 48 Gbps rated cables would support all HDMI 2.1 features.

Jun 25, 2023 8:11 PM in response to Lloyd Lathrop

Possibly those device may need some configuration for high bandwidth passthrough. The default settings may have some reduced functionality (but wider compatibility).


Sony equipment is notorious for needing manual configuration to Enhanced Format for HDMI ports that need high bandwidth. I’ve read about this for Sony TVs, but something similar may apply to receivers. Review your manual and verify your settings.

Similarly, the ARC port may need configuration to activate full eARC support. It likely has a switch setting. That may apply to the TV as well.


Else try finding manufacturer support or user groups specialized in these models TV and receiver. It may be easier to troubleshoot for users that are familiar with this equipment.

Jun 25, 2023 3:04 PM in response to Urquhart1244

Urquhart1244,


I apologize that I didn't reply until now...we were in the process of moving.


I have 8k-capable HDMI cables, so I'll check the capabilities of the amp. I think I'd rather have 7.1 sound (when available) than an HDR picture, but a lot of what we watch on Apple TV+ is very dark, so I might change my mind. Also, the amp can simulate 7.1 with a 5.1 signal, so that fact might also help me make up my mind which way to go.


Thanks for the info,

Lloyd

Jun 25, 2023 5:59 PM in response to Urquhart1244

Urquhart1244,


I goofed...I have two receivers in the house, one is a Yamaha but the one connected to my Apple TV is a SONY STR-DH790. I tried connecting the Apple TV directly to my VIZIO E70-F3 4k tv, and I was able to change the video to both Dolby and HDR but, even though I connected the eARC on the SONY to the eARC on the VIZIO, I wasn't able to get any audio at all through the amp, only directly out of the tv speakers. When I reconnected the Apple TV to the SONY amp and then eARC from the amp to the tv, the audio was great again but I couldn't get HDR or Dolby Vision. The TV and amp are both supposed to handle pass-through but I'm not sure if my settings are correct. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Lloyd

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