Inexplicable internal damage to USB-C ports: cause?

Apple diagnoses internal damage to pins on 2 of the 4 ports on high-spec MacBook Pro. It’s being classed as 'accidental damage’ with a £79 excess to repair. Given that Mac is less than two years old and has had only one careful, experienced user (me), I'm struggling to understand how 'accidental damage’ - to opposite sides of the device no less - is possible.*


I believe this is a failure of hardware that's been exposed to perfectly normal usage. Any laptop should be able to withstand the normal plugging / unplugging of external devices for several years, let alone 18 months - and having worked in tech I suspect I’m considerably more careful with my gear than the average user.


The problem crept up slowly. I didn’t connect the dots and blamed other devices, but on reviewing screen grabs and notes a different picture emerges:


  • ± 18 months ago: one external monitor randomly goes black, displaying 'no signal' messages. I replace it.
  • ± 12 months ago: Mac occasionally overheats, but still much cooler than previous models.
  • ± 6 months ago: Mac overheats more frequently. It also occasionally tips external hard drives off, resulting in error messages saying to eject discs before removing - but disks haven't been touched. (And if I unplug them of course I eject first. Duh). Place new fan beneath Mac.
  • Disk eject problem continues. Suspect old HDD and change it.
  • ± 4 months ago. Another (new) new hard disk operates well below described speed; I return it.
  • ‘Disk eject’ occurrences escalate further; one drive corrupts, fatally. Data irretrievable and disk can't be re-formatted. Fried.
  • Another external monitor starts to go black and display 'no signal’ message. Usual steps – power on off, reboot etc. fails to resolve it. Fault on (very expensive) 1 year old monitor??
  • ± 6 weeks ago, second screen (only 8 weeks old) starts doing the same thing...
  • Disk ejection error messages escalate, although disks always untouched. Mac overheats more often, and hotter. Mac occasionally unresponsive, screen lag, apps not responding in real time. Random problems with slow data transfer. Error message saying current Thunderbolt port only able to transfer data at ridiculously slow speed. (Forget what but something like 0.04 mbps). So, H/W fault. Add Thunderbolt 4 hub (own power supply) to enable other HDDs to continue without using that port. Disk eject problem continues. Mac overheats even when not using demanding apps.


With the diagnoses of inexplicably damaged pins on 2/4 ports I finally realise problems with peripherals are consistent with frequent, intermittent and uncontrolled disconnection of external devices. Whilst evaluating computer, Apple advisor experienced screen freeze and Mac inexplicably getting much too hot, although no applications actually in use. I was then advised that if found further evidence of damage found inside – such as liquid damage - the repair could cost more.


The Mac has never been exposed to liquid, used in extreme temperatures or wet atmosphere. No kids in the house, never been dropped, gets transported with care in own compartment of laptop rucksack. Has never had anything other than USB-C cables and an Apple multiport adapter (carefully) plugged into its ports. Except for one SSD, all external devices have own power supply. External monitors x 2 are well within performance spec for this model.


I’d be grateful for input from any hardware techs. I think it's shoddy hardware, not 'accidental damage’ and I'm very unhappy at being charged an excess and discovering that this counts as one of only two accidental damage incidents allowable under the ludicrously expensive AppleCare policy.

MacBook Pro (2017 – 2020)

Posted on Apr 25, 2023 12:30 PM

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Posted on Apr 25, 2023 6:37 PM

Sounds like just the I/O Boards which contain the USB-C ports were replaced.


I can tell you from supporting thousands of our organization's USB-C Apple laptops that over half of them tend to have accidental liquid damage on the contacts inside the USB-C port. Once the I/O Board is removed, it is usually easy to see the corrosion caused by the liquid. Because the ports are so tiny, the contacts are closer together than with most older ports (Thunderbolt 2/mini-display ports also tend to have this issue to a lesser extent) so if even just a single drop of liquid enters the port, it is likely to start corroding the contacts as it will easily make contact with two pins. With electricity flowing through the drop of liquid from touching two pins, a chemical reaction begins and before long corrosion will form on & between those two pins.


Keep in mind that it may just be a small liquid spill on the table nearby the laptop where none of the actual puddled liquid ever touches the laptop, but it can still cause drops to splatter much further. Just because you never spilled anything near the laptop doesn't mean someone else didn't have an accident & cleaned it up without saying anything to you. Maybe a cold drink is set down and a drop condensation from the cup flys off.


Liquid damage to the USB-C ports on the Apple laptops is so common on the laptops within our organization that I inspect the ports on every Mac I handle. However, even inspecting these ports I will many times miss the corrosion as it can be very difficult to see unless I pull it all apart to get an unobstructed view.


The intermittent nature of external devices working may be due to how the USB-C cable is connected to the laptop. Rotating the connector of the USB-C cable 180 degrees upside down can sometimes make a difference between a device working or not working if the USB-C port is partially damaged or half bad.


The only times I've ever had to replace the I/O Boards were for liquid damage, or for the ports becoming physically worn so that the cables were getting too loose to stay in place (worn ports are only an issue with the 2016 & 2017 models).




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