I sent a message to someone I haven’t heard from in a while (Not typical for him!). It says Delivered. I thought for sure this means I haven’t been blocked. But then I saw online on a reputable site that with the latest Software, iOS 16.5, it still could mean you’re blocked, even if it says Delivered!! I hope this isn’t true!! Is it?! I called Apple & they haven’t heard of this. Thanks in advance!
iPhone XR
From Block phone numbers, contacts, and emails on your iPhone or iPad - Apple Support
When you block a phone number or contact, they can still leave a voicemail, but you won't get a notification. Messages that are sent or received won't be delivered. Also, the contact won't get a notification that the call or message was blocked. When you block an email address from Mail, it goes to the trash folder. Email blocking works across all your Apple devices.
Privacy is a global issue. The fact that someone you know doesn’t care that you have access to information about them (such as that they have blocked you) does not mean that nobody cares about their privacy. The EU has imposed strict rules protecting the privacy of internet users (GDPR law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation). So for Apple to let you know that someone has blocked you violates the GDPR, because it reveals private information about them. While the GDPR does not apply to users in the US, it DOES apply to someone in the US who contacts someone in the EU. Thus, Apple cannot legally let you know whether or not your message was blocked.
From Block phone numbers, contacts, and emails on your iPhone or iPad - Apple Support
When you block a phone number or contact, they can still leave a voicemail, but you won't get a notification. Messages that are sent or received won't be delivered. Also, the contact won't get a notification that the call or message was blocked. When you block an email address from Mail, it goes to the trash folder. Email blocking works across all your Apple devices.
Privacy is a global issue. The fact that someone you know doesn’t care that you have access to information about them (such as that they have blocked you) does not mean that nobody cares about their privacy. The EU has imposed strict rules protecting the privacy of internet users (GDPR law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation). So for Apple to let you know that someone has blocked you violates the GDPR, because it reveals private information about them. While the GDPR does not apply to users in the US, it DOES apply to someone in the US who contacts someone in the EU. Thus, Apple cannot legally let you know whether or not your message was blocked.
That’s actually inaccurate. I was blocked by someone, (iMessages), and it showed “~blocked by user~” immediately upon them blocking me, and with every message thereafter that I attempted to send. That was a while ago. Maybe it changed, as I am no longer blocked. Also, if it stated delivered, the recipient did receive the message. But as stated by others, unless they have the “Read” receipts checked, there’s no way to know if they looked at your message.
Flowagirl wrote:
Thank you! But I have to go by what Apple people said. You can for sure know if you’ve been blocked if it goes from one ring straight to voicemail only from your phone (versus straight to voicemail!)
No, that doesn't necessarily tell you that you have been blocked. It could be that the person you're calling saw the caller ID and sent you to voice mail because they were busy at that moment.
I already know that when you block someone they can leave a voicemail & that you don’t get a ring though. It goes in a special blocked callers place, did you know? It’s not what I asked. And I can also provide many links as well as I’ve done extensive research and I already said that I already found out he didn’t block me. The fact that it said Delivered and it was a blue message with it, and the fact that he called me to tell me why he left for 12 days, the death, was a tip off too lol. He respected me for giving him space and called me too.
This issue is resolved and I learned from Apple people top that he didn’t block me. And by him himself lol
It has not changed. "Delivered” has NEVER meant that the message was not blocked. Note that your posted quote says “can” mean that you were blocked. It is not a definite statement. There are other reasons that you didn’t get a “delivered” message. To report back to you what the recipient did with your message is a violation of their privacy, and would be illegal in many places (like the EU). And perhaps they didn’t block you, but they saw the message and decided not to reply.
And a call going to voicemail does not “prove” the call was blocked. There are many possible reasons a call will go to voicemail even if your call was not blocked by the recipient.
Flowagirl wrote:
I sent a message to someone I haven’t heard from in a while (Not typical for him!). It says Delivered. I thought for sure this means I haven’t been blocked. But then I saw online on a reputable site that with the latest Software, iOS 16.5, it still could mean you’re blocked, even if it says Delivered!! I hope this isn’t true!! Is it?! I called Apple & they haven’t heard of this. Thanks in advance!
And why not call the person you text and ask if they've received your text?
Thank you, razmee209. Yeah was thinkin that in a couple weeks if I still haven’t heard back from him I’ll text him askin if he could tell me if he’s ok, to make sure nothing happened to him & to eait that long as he may just need space. It’s just so unlike him to drop off or ghost! If he doesn’t respond to that then I’ll try calling him. If there’s barely a ring & it goes straight to vmail it could mean I’ve been blocked (unless I try it again with a *67 & it still goes to vmail. Then it’d mean something happened to his phone.).
But was hoping someone here from Apple could answer if it’s true that with the latest ioS that even if it says Delivered it could still mean you’re blocked. As it always was a given before that it would mean that for sure you aren’t blocked.
Haha no it IS new. In the past any time it said Delivered it WAS WELL KNOWN that it meant you were 100% NOT blocked & that the person received your message. You COULD know by that. You just didn’t know this. It said that very CLEARLY everywhere that if it said Delivered then you were not blocked. I think maybe you don’t know that it’s not a question on if someone “accepts” your message. So my question was if this has CHANGED with this Software that you may still have been blocked even if it says Delivered. Checking if it goes directly to voicemail if you call IS the way to know if you’ve been blocked Apple always says lol.
Am CLEARLY not “asking for relationship advice that is just between he and I,” lol. In any case, he likely didn’t block me. :)
Here’s what I mean. Attached is from an article saying that now, with the latest versions of Software even if it says Delivered you may have been blocked. This was NEVER the case before. As before, if it said Delivered then you were 100% NOT blocked. In fact, if the bubble stayed blue & it DIDN’T say Delivered, THEN you knew you were blocked before. I was merely asking if this article about the latest Software having changed this is true! :)
Lawrence, am confused about your message. I found out definitively that I wasn’t blocked. The guy called me by now that the reason he dropped off for 12 days was his mom died & he was so appreciative of my space. And is turning to me for support. My message said DELIVERED I said. He said he GOT IT.
You talk about “violation” of privacy but he knows that I give space & I also was only going to call 2 weeks later to see if I was blocked. So have no idea what that means.
Furthermore you’re wrong that “Delivered” under a blue message has never meant that it was sent. It HAS. I called Apple AGAIN before he called me and the woman there said that with my Delivered message it was clear that my message was SENT, that I was NOT blocked. I thought this had changed with the new ioS as I read that somewhere. In her opinion it HASN’T.
lobsterghost1 ohhh lol. I just joined & for some reason thought Apple people were here too. Oops!
Is what you’re saying you mean as it’s a new Software, or have you always thought it says Delivered even if you’ve been blocked?
am thinking of texting him in 2 weeks asking if he can tell me if he’s ok & then call if he doesn’t respond. If it goes straight to vmail I’ll officially know I’ve been blocked (Unless I try again with *67 & it does the same thing. Then I’ll know that something’s been wrong with his phone). He’s the kindest guy I know! It’s why I liked him so much! So blocking or ghosting didn’t seem like his thing!! And he wrote me how much he adores me! Then he left lol.
I believe it's always been delivered. And you as the sender, will NEVER know you've been blocked as it's up to the recipient to accept or NOT accept messages from whoever they want or don't want to receive them from. This is nothing new.
Your plan of if a voice message immediately goes to voicemail, doesn't mean anything. He could have Do Not Disturb enabled.
This is between you and him. We can't help with relationship things here.
It’s not about arguing. I’m telling you exactly what has been written in many places for years. So am glad you don’t want to argue it. I just don’t think you are understanding the question. I am not making any assumptions as I posed a question. About a change in the Software. If it said delivered before, and all tech people disagree with you that it meant you weren’t blocked. I was just wondering if it’s changed with the new software. I believe that maybe NOW if it says Delivered it can still mean you’re blocked. It’s not a question about him and me. Have a good day!
I saw he contacted you. But in all reality, if you've been blocked, it doesn't matter whether you get 1 ring or 100 rings, you simply will NOT know if you've been blocked. And no one can tell you you've been blocked either. Blocking someone is up to the person who wants to block a contact. It's their choice completely and you'll never know.
You have a nice day as well.
Thank you! But I have to go by what Apple people said. You can for sure know if you’ve been blocked if it goes from one ring straight to voicemail only from your phone (versus straight to voicemail!). Of course it’s up to a person if they want to block though! And as my message was blue and it said Delivered under it it makes it also without a question that he didn’t block me. Not just as he called me to tell me. I’m not sure why you are disagreeing with all I’ve been told and read. My question was only if it’s true this might’ve changed with the new Software! Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Thanks
Message Says Delivered. Can still mean blocked with latest iOS?
