I upgraded the OS to Big Sur.

I have a late 2013 iMac and I upgraded the OS to Big Sur. It's a disaster.

How do I downgrade without losing my files?

I never activated my Time Machine.

Posted on Jul 17, 2023 6:49 AM

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Posted on Jul 18, 2023 4:37 AM

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Jul 18, 2023 4:50 AM in response to DreamtimeAquarium

Thank you.


Then, really really ( no typo there ) make a Time Machine Backup right away.


Even Better , make two independent TM Backups each to separate External Drives


Scorched Earth Method 


This method will WIPE ALL Data and there is No Recovery - Period.


>> Only works on Intel Based Apple Computer <<


To perform this action will require booting from a Bootable Installer


The Bootable Installer can Only be performed on an Apple Computer 


This will have to be performed from a Qualifying Computer to run the version of macOS to be made on the Bootable Installer.


Example ONLY : Bootable Installer of Big Sur would have to be done on a computer that Qualifies to run Big Sur.


Notation: If the computer being used to perform this action is Too New or Too Old to qualify to run the version of macOS - this computer can not be used.


Alternative is, to gain access to a Qualifying Apple Computer from a family member, friend or associate.


1 - Shutdown computer and disconnect all external drive Except the newly created Bootable Installer.


2- Restart and immediately hold the OPTION key until the Startup Manager appears and choose the USB Drive. 


3 - It will present options >> Disk Utilities >> View >> View ALL attached Drives. 


4 - Choose the Upper Most Drive ( not the volumes indented and list below ).


5 - The drive normally is called Apple Media or Apple SSD - that is the drive to Erase and format as APFS with the GUID Partition Map. This applies to macOS 10.14 Mojave and above. 


5A - Formatting for macOS 10.13 High Sierra and below requires HFS Journaled with the GUID Partition Map


6 - Once that is done >> backup out of Disk Utilities and choose install macOS. 


7 - Follow the prompts and it may automatically reboot several time. 


8 - Upon a final reboot - Setup Assist will present with the newer version of macOS.


9 - Use Migrate Assist to bring back all your Personal Data


Transfer to a new Mac with Migration Assistant - Apple Support (CA)


Jul 18, 2023 7:01 AM in response to DreamtimeAquarium

What follows in Not intended to be a flippant reply.


User choice to work through the existing issues in macOS 11 Big Sur or Wipe the Drive and start back with macOs 10.14 Mojave.


Putting aside, for the moment, the seemingly daunting Technical steps to downgrade back to Mojave


Doing back would put in jeopardy your ability to use the Old Version of M.S. Office.


From what I have only read about this, Microsoft only offers Licensing for the Current versions of Office


If the computer has so many issues aside from MS Office for Mac, which you seemed to have resolved by using LibreOffice .


I would be inclined to stay with Bug Sur


That said - a neet application for seeing what and where some issues may be occurring >>


Download the Application Etrecheck directly from the Developer.


This is a Diagnostic Tool that makes no changes to the computer.


It makes a coherent and readable inventory of both the Hardware and Software used on the computer 


The application is free or paid from added features. 


The Report will Not Reveal Any Personal Information. 


Post back the Full Report - copy and paste - >>>> using the Additional Text Icon ( 3rd Icon to last ) <<<<


We can have a look at the report for possible issues and may have possible suggestions to resolve the issues




Jul 18, 2023 5:13 AM in response to Owl-53

Wow! Thank you! This is amazing!

However, it's all too technical for me and I'm wondering whether I should just let things be.

Is there a video link showing the process?

I'm very annoyed that Apple allowed the update to go ahead in the first place.

If I do manage to downgrade, which version should I downgrade to? I had Mojave before and somehow found myself upgraded to Big Sur...

Ever since this mess happened, I've been using LibreOffice and other open source software, because Big Sur will not allow my old Microsoft & GarageBand software to work.

I just hope the computer will not crash due to Big Sur. Is there a risk of that happening?

Thanks again!





Jul 19, 2023 12:54 AM in response to DreamtimeAquarium

As my Learned Colleague has attempted to enlighten you on the usage of Etrecheck Application a couple of things come to mind.


I am aware of an Internet Posting outside of these Forums making that specific claim about Etrecheck Application.


The fallacy in that logic is, 1 is not ALL in regards Etrecheck.


More often than not the same type of posting on the Internet will say macOS Requires Antivirus Software to be safe


Then we move onto a specific Disk Cleaner which shall remain un-named


All said and done, good luck with this computer issue


Have taken up enough of your time







Jul 19, 2023 1:05 AM in response to Owl-53

As my Learned Colleague has attempted to enlighten you on the usage of Etrecheck Application a couple of things come to mind.


I am aware of an Internet Posting outside of these Forums making that specific claim about Etrecheck Application.


The fallacy in that logic is, 1 is not ALL in regards Etrecheck.


More often than not the same type of posting on the Internet will say macOS Requires Antivirus Software to be safe - fallacy


Then we move onto a specific Disk Cleaner which shall remain un-named - also a fallacy


1 - Disk Cleaner 


This will include CleanMyMac , aka “ BrickMyMac


MacKeeper,


Dr Cleaner Pro Plus


Open Cleaner one Pro


Macmechanic


2  - Third Party Security Software 


This will include BitDefender


This will included Norton Antivirus 


 Sophos Av Software


Intego AntiVirus


 McAfee


Avast AntiVirus


Ad Guard,


 Webroot ,


 ESET ,


 Avira ,


AVG AntiVirus  


 avira antivirus 


Trustee  


AntiVirus for Mac


F-Secure


Securemac


Cylance


Kaspersky Internet Security


Total Virus Software 


Read some of the posting and arrive at your own conclusions.


The The Built in Security  is all that is required.


All said and done, good luck with this computer issue


Have taken up enough of your time



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