UPS with iMac 24 M1 battery always @ 0%

I have a 10 day old iMac 24 and a new "1000VA/600W Powercool Smart UPS 3x UK Plug Socket 3x IEC 2x RJ45 USB LED Display' macOS is ventura 13.4.1(c). the iMac recognises the UPS as it provides the "UPS Options" whom the UPS is connected. However, the battery displayed in the menu bar is always at 0% even though the UPS is fully charged. I tested and ran the iMac with mains turned off via the UPS for over an hour. Turned on the mains power again and it then shows that the batteries are charging (flashing front panel LED).

Cable connecting is a new USB-c to USB-B cable, was initially on USB-B to USB-A cable and an adapter to USB-C.

I have asked the seller about this and I also asked "AppleCare" too. AppleCare said, predictably that it must be something with the UPS !

So I thought I would ask here for any ideas, while I wait for the sellers response. I am in UK by the way.



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Posted on Jul 21, 2023 6:39 AM

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Posted on Jul 24, 2023 5:35 AM

I now have an update from BPC UK as follows:-

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Thank you for your earlier call, unfortunately this series in particular will not have the capacity to communicate with a third party application to share battery data on a component level, and as such without a revision of the hardware, this functionality cannot be added to the system.


This is a feature we will consider In future, but for now, there is no smart shutdown capacity with this system.

We apologise for the inconvenience.

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So looks like Tripp-Lite will be my last hope.


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Jul 24, 2023 5:35 AM in response to Electron075

I now have an update from BPC UK as follows:-

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Thank you for your earlier call, unfortunately this series in particular will not have the capacity to communicate with a third party application to share battery data on a component level, and as such without a revision of the hardware, this functionality cannot be added to the system.


This is a feature we will consider In future, but for now, there is no smart shutdown capacity with this system.

We apologise for the inconvenience.

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So looks like Tripp-Lite will be my last hope.


Jul 24, 2023 2:57 AM in response to jeffreythefrog

Just a quick update on this, still waiting for a response from Tripp-`lite.

However, your suggestion did prompt me to contact another uk supplier "BPC".

Their tech support guys said he did know that they were working on a firmware update for their products and would email what the progress on this was and if possible send me a firmware update, for if I should decide to buy one.

So it seems that probably some UPS units will not function fully with the latest, Ventura 13.4.1(c) macOS and as AppleCare suggested probably due to firmware on the UPS concerned. So I guess I should have asked first !


Jul 24, 2023 11:01 AM in response to Electron075

Hi All,


Thanks for all of your input. have now spoken to apple care by chat again, this time took 45 mins to get an escalation to a senior advisor.

They listened and then said that they cannot recommend any product in particular for the silicon Macs at this time.

So I asked they they escalate to their engineering team to ask if they can supply evidence that the ups software in settings does work and with which UPS they tested it with, or did they adapt the software from older macOS ?

I have seen video of this working with big Sur, for example using the older "preferences" so I am sure that there is nothing new that is required now from a UPS and so they all should work as expected.


So Guess this the end of the line for me, unless someone has an M1 Mac running, Ventura 13.4.1(c) with a UPS were the Mac UPS options work fully, including the battery level indicator.


Thanks to all again,

Denis

Jul 21, 2023 6:45 AM in response to Electron075

Electron075 wrote:

I have asked the seller about this and I also asked "AppleCare" too. AppleCare said, predictably that it must be something with the UPS !

FWIW, it's quite possible the firmware of the UPS is not 100% compatible with Ventura.

So I thought I would ask here for any ideas, while I wait for the sellers response. I am in UK by the way.

I think you need to see what the seller has to say.

Jul 23, 2023 9:32 AM in response to dialabrain

Hi Guys,

Perhaps as I had expected the seller says that there is no updates for the ups and to contact Apple !

So I have requested a full refund, since if the the machine can't decide when to shutdown, since it can't read the UPS battery capacity or vent know when it switches to battery, then it cannot protect as it is supposed to do.


Since this happened I have been trying to find information about how to know if a particular UPS will work with the silicon Macs as the apple info suggests that they should. So far every response from sellers has been that they don't know/ can't guarantee if their UPS will be compatible or not.


So I am bit confused now as all info regarding UPS and Macs seem to just assume that any UPS will work with any mac and any clips are more than 4 years old that I found for Macs.

Is there something I need to look for in specs , clearly "macOS" alone is not enough assuming that it is even mentioned?


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