Brother setup support scam

I got a new printer and googled “Brother printer setup,” which brought up a very official looking “Brother Setup Support” webpage. I accessed the chat window, and the woman connected me by phone with a tech in India, who said he needed access to my computer to figure the problem out. After a while he said that my network was corrupted , I had no firewall, and I needed to have someone else clean that up and install a proper firewall. He showed me a page (that I realized later wasn’t really from my computer) that said my firewall was not active, then he tried hard to convince me that someone (other than him) had access to my entire computer. I declined, telling him that I didn’t feel comfortable with it and that I’d take it to the local Apple people to trouble shoot. He said it wasn’t a computer problem, it was a network problem. I realized later that I’m not even on a “network,” so that doesn’t make sense. I asked him if I’d have to pay this next person and when he said yes, I said no thanks and that I’d find someone local. After I hung up and thought about it, I knew something was wrong and called the real Brother company, who said this is a scam that “they’re working on.” I then googled it and found that they’ve know about it since at least 2018 — and haven’t fixed it yet!

I don’t think there’s an issue with my internet, and can’t find any evidence of malware or viruses on the laptop, but did a full backup and restarted it to make sure. This has been intensely stressful, and I’m still not sure if he might have installed something on my computer... Is there an easy way for me to check this? I’m on a MacBook Air, running OS 13.4.1

MacBook Air (M1, 2020)

Posted on Jul 21, 2023 2:44 PM

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Jul 22, 2023 7:21 PM in response to nashvillechick

Unfortunately this issue occurs with any product and vendor and is not specific to Brother. It is indeed sad that the scammers are so prevalent as they ruin so many nice things these days. Those scammers are making things difficult both for consumers and even businesses. I'm continually saddened & frustrated with them as well.


The printer should have come with some instructions including a URL for the official Brother website.


Here is the official URL for the Brother website (for the US at least, you may be able to access other regions from this link):

https://www.brother-usa.com/home


FYI, if you purchase an Air Print compatible printer, then you should not need to install any third party software to use it. See this Apple article regarding Air Print compatible printers:

Print wirelessly from your Mac to your printer - Apple Support


Add a printer to your printer list so you can use it on Mac - Apple Support


Jul 22, 2023 3:55 PM in response to nashvillechick

I then googled it and found that they’ve know about it since at least 2018 — and haven’t fixed it yet!


Really? That like demanding taht a mountain bike company protect you from falling off. Companies like Brother or Apple or Lenovo cannot fix scams.


If you have a beef, it is with the search engine you used. They accept payment for high placement of "hits," with zero regard to whose send them money. No company can stop that.


Search engines are there to make money, not to be your protector from the Dark Side.


There are bogus search hits like that for EVERY tech company and the only way to avoid them is to USE THE COMPANY'S WEB PAGE for correct contact information. The Brother web site was probably printed on the box in which your new printer was packed.


If you used Google to search, your complaint is with them.


Embrace ownership of your web usage before the web embraces ownership of you.

Jul 22, 2023 3:55 PM in response to nashvillechick

I bet the same thing happened to me! I just remembered.


So this was a while ago. I was having issues with a Brother printer showing an error message of sorts, and I found the website you’re referring to, (it was at least one of the top three results in Chrome,) and started chatting with the person.


First of all, he/she didn’t know a darned thing about printers, and eventually, he/she asked if he/she could transfer my issue “higher.” When I said: no thanks, (I would get the administrator to take care of this; I was only doing it as a good deed,) the chat window promptly vanished.


It was then I knew everything was a scam attempt, and I’d been had. A real company wouldn’t “hang up on you!” They’d ask if you have anymore questions, etc. Just like Apple chat.


Knowing what I know now, I wouldn’t have fallen the for the website at all. Live and learn, they say!

Jul 22, 2023 3:55 PM in response to Allan Jones

Allan -- that was a bit mean. I’m a retired RN (not a young tech savvy person) who’s never before fallen for anything like that, and I did back out before he got money from me. Since it’s so pervasive, Brother could at least warn people on their quick setup instructions (which is what most people read) that there are nefarious companies masquerading as them, and to use only the official website and numbers.

Jul 22, 2023 3:55 PM in response to nashvillechick

Understood. I'm almost 76. I'm the father of an RN; I offer my sincere appreciation for your sacrifices and service in the care of others.


My apologies. "Mean" was not intended—I'm normally one of the peacemakers around here—but suppose I was floored to think that Brother had some culpability in this when it is the search engines that are fault. If anyone needs to warn us, it is the search engines.

Jul 22, 2023 3:55 PM in response to Allan Jones

So sad that dishonesty exists everywhere -- but before home computers, it had far less access to us. We would have driven to a Sears store or called them directly for answers. We could get dishonest or inept repair people, but generally not scammers. I guess one good thing is that keeping up with all this helps to sharpen my aging brain (I’m only 4 years behind you), which may hold dementia at bay.

Hah -- I’m just a grouchy senior, missing the “good old days” 😆

Jul 23, 2023 10:38 AM in response to HWTech

HWTech--thanks for all that. If I had looked on Brother’s paperwork for a contact instead of googling it, I’d have avoided this whole mess. My printer is an Air Print version, and it’s now working. My issue was that I couldn’t figure out how to get the printer to recognize my wi-fi. Again -- I’m a 72 year old RN -- not stupid, though not terribly tech savvy. But a bit wiser today than two days ago!


One question: What is the chance that the scammer can again access my computer without my knowledge? I did a full backup and changed my master password after the event...


Jul 23, 2023 10:58 AM in response to nashvillechick

Not to beat a dead horse but this excerpt from Effective defenses against malware and other threats - Apple Community is worth repeating:


  • Don't rely upon Internet search engines to obtain technical support assistance:
  • ...
  • If you require technical support, determine the company's legitimate contact information from their own website or product literature, and initiate contact with them directly.


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