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2019 Laptop purchased from relative of deceased owner, T2 chip locks me out, how do I proceed with Apple

Until after I purchased the computer I was not made aware that the seller was the brother of the deceased owner. T2 chip locks me out of obtaining Administrative privileges. I was an Apple VAR for 10 years and I own several Macs including the same model I purchased mentioned above a 2019 MacBook Pro with 8 Terabyte Storage and 64 gigs of ram. I'm aware I need a death certificate, this computer was gifted to the now deceased owner by the Make a Wish Foundation and a portion of my purchase from his brother was donated to the Make a Wish Foundation. I went to the local Apple Store in my city and I was told that once Apple verifies the authenticity of the ownership they will modify the t2 chip for me free of cost. Besides the death certificate what else if anything do I need and who do I contact to start the process once I have whatever Apple requests. Or who can I contact at Apple to explain the situation to and find out what is required to change ownership to me.

MacBook Pro (2017 – 2020)

Posted on Jul 24, 2023 6:01 PM

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Posted on Jul 24, 2023 6:33 PM

For information about how to request access to a deceased family member's Apple account data, and possibly their equipment, click here --> How to request access to a deceased family member's Apple account - Apple Support


"While we may also be able to help remove Activation Lock from devices that use your loved one’s original Apple ID, their iPhone, iPod, and iPad will need to be restored to factory settings before they can be used with another Apple ID. Please note that devices locked with a passcode are protected by passcode encryption, and Apple can't help remove the passcode lock without erasing the device."


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Jul 24, 2023 6:33 PM in response to Nollaig Shona

For information about how to request access to a deceased family member's Apple account data, and possibly their equipment, click here --> How to request access to a deceased family member's Apple account - Apple Support


"While we may also be able to help remove Activation Lock from devices that use your loved one’s original Apple ID, their iPhone, iPod, and iPad will need to be restored to factory settings before they can be used with another Apple ID. Please note that devices locked with a passcode are protected by passcode encryption, and Apple can't help remove the passcode lock without erasing the device."


Jul 24, 2023 7:07 PM in response to Nollaig Shona

The person who inherited the computer would apply to Apple as in the article.


If you ended up with the original sales receipt you may be able to convince Apple that way.


Failing either of those you have unfortunately ended up with a useless piece of equipment.


More:


Apple has two related features, Activation Lock ( Activation Lock for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch - Apple Support ) and Find My ( iCloud+ - Find My - Apple ), which are designed to prevent anyone else from using a Mac if it's ever lost or stolen. Deactivation of either requires knowing the Apple ID and password that set the feature, or by placing a special request to Apple to reset the device. This Apple ID information essentially defines the current ownership of the device.


If you do not know the required information, are not the signed-in owner, or do not have Apple accepted proof of purchase, get the owner of the account to remove the lock (described in How to remove Activation Lock - Apple Support ), or return the device for a refund, or recycle the Mac. The device is otherwise useless to you. If the owner is unknown and has not provided contact information as a message showing in the login screen, there is no way to contact the owner unless the person who gave you the device knows them.


Here are additional resources if you are the account owner, can find the previous device owner, or have an Apple accepted proof or purchase:


● Read this article to learn how to remove Activation Lock either on the device itself or on the web --> How to remove Activation Lock - Apple Support

or this one for disabling Find My if activation lock has not yet engaged --> Turn off Find My on your iPhone or other devices - Apple Support

or if the owner no longer has access to a device it can can be removerd from Find My on iCloud.com. as described in this support article Remove a device from Find Devices on iCloud.com - Apple Support --> "You can use Find Devices on iCloud.com to temporarily remove a device from the Devices list or turn off Activation Lock on a device you already gave away or sold."


● Help with a lost Apple ID or password:

• For help with a forgotten Apple ID (this is likely an active email address or one used in the past), click here --> If you forgot your Apple ID email address or phone number - Apple Support

• For help with a forgotten Apple ID password, click here --> If you forgot your Apple ID password - Apple Support


● Reset device if you can prove to Apple's satisfaction you are the owner:

Apple can completely reset a device if a person can provide sufficient evidence of valid ownership. This is done online* at: Activation Lock support request - https://al-support.apple.com/#/additional-support Apple says, "Proof of ownership documentation is required," but does not provide many details in the article as to what is acceptable proof. Prior to this official service Apple typically required the original receipt** issued by Apple or an Apple Authorized Reseller and documented provenance (so typically it would be the first owner who does this, or a descendant with legal proof of ownership transfer). Note that while this will let you get use of the device again, it will not help you with lost access to an account.


* There is a special link for this service. To save time you should use it instead of https://getsupport.apple.com/ .


**Apple recommends you keep your receipt after you buy an Apple device. --> Keep your receipt after you buy an Apple device - Apple Support


Refer to this document for ways to contact Apple ➞ Choose your country or region - Official Apple Support

Select your country (also look for "other" regions), then a product. If you don't see one that handles your issue then keep experimenting with selections until you reach one that gets you a chat session or a telephone call and get the representative to redirect you.


or:


Contact Apple for support and service by telephone ➞ Contact Apple for support and service - Apple Support



Jul 26, 2023 7:29 AM in response to Limnos

Thanks very much for your prompt response. I'm obviously not a family member. The computer was sold to me by his brother a family member. I'm also aware that it would be reset to factory settings. I need to know as a third party in all this how I need to proceed with Apple. I have no interest in his existing account or other Apple devices he may have owned. Just the recognition from Apple that I now own that computer. In the good old days we referred to what I need to have done as "nuke and pave" with regard to preparing the drive with a clean install. I know how to do that but I need Apple to do the T2 reset and a contact person at Apple who can tell me the process of accomplishing their changing the T2 chip settings...by the way when I recently added an 8 Apple Terabyte Drive to my MacPro Desktop from the original 2 Terabyte I was provided instructions on how to change the chip so it would accept the new Apple 8 Terabyte module using Apple Configurator. Thanks in Advance


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Jul 24, 2023 7:21 PM in response to Limnos

Thanks for your response, there are complexities with this transaction via EBAY which I cannot detail here but suffice it to say I would like to exclude the family member who sold it to me from this process if at all possible and

if needed have the deceased's parent help me instead of the seller. That's another reason I need to discuss this with an Apple employee directly and explain in detail the entire situation. I will try utilizing the new information and links you've given me...perhaps that will lead me to someone to speak with...this is not a situation where online forms are in any way useful. Why is it so difficult to find someone at Apple I can speak directly with...I guess perhaps I should begin with local Apple Store for advice. I'm working in Ireland for 5 weeks currently so that will have to wait...but I do have a phoner with Apple in Ireland today so maybe they can guide me a bit from here. Thanks again for your help and suggestions.

Jul 24, 2023 7:42 PM in response to Nollaig Shona

I suspect they now have a rigid set of guidelines to which to adhere. A few years ago you could go to an Apple Store and they would basically judge each case based on its merits. This was before there was any official unlocking service. The downside was if a store wanted to they could just refuse everybody. Since then the whole thing has been formalized and works both ways. Now there is an online service and a recognized unlocking policy, but it also means a loss of flexibility. It is a disadvantage for those who have a valid but unusual situation that doesn't fit the guidelines, but it also likely deters clever thieves from using imaginative stories to talk Apple into unlocking stolen devices.

Jul 24, 2023 8:02 PM in response to Limnos

I completely understand the need and reason for their increased security. Forgive me if I was unclear about my reasons for contacting the local Apple Store. I would contact them only to get information about how to speak with someone further up the food chain at Apple to proceed with this unusual case whereby until I was locked out I was not informed by the seller that he was not the owner but the brother of the deceased owner. The seller never owned a Mac and tried to install Ventura over Catalina before he sent it to me...I'm not sure he did that properly but my guess is probably not. He did not know anything about the computer and the security issues. When I tried to get somewhere I was told on the computer I needed to contact the owner to have them delete the device from their ownership list....that's when he told me the computer he sold me was his deceased brothers and not his...his story about the deceased brother is absolutely true and I have a copy of the obituary of the actual owner...I know Apple needs death certificate for proof and an attorney I contacted told me the death certificate can be obtain and considered legitimate if you obtain it directly from the issuer in this case it's Cook County, Illinois. Thanks again for your suggestions what I need as previously stated is a person at Apple who can answer questions for me about this matter and instruct me about how to proceed or if I even can proceed...again I'm leaving out aspects of the seller's behavior in this whole process which I can only discuss in detail to Apple.

2019 Laptop purchased from relative of deceased owner, T2 chip locks me out, how do I proceed with Apple

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