Apps no longer show up under Location Services under Privacy and Security after installing 13.5 update.
As a result users are unable to edit location permissions or see what apps have location access.
If a new app tries to request location services, it doesn’t show in System Settings so it’s impossible to enable it. Hopefully macOS 13.5.1 will address that issue.
Mac mini (M1, 2020)
Why is that answer still marked as “Best answer” when it’s clearly false information.
“macOS Ventura 13.5.1 fixes an issue in System Settings that prevents location permissions from appearing.”
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213268
Apple centric tech blog MacRumors is now confirming the bug.
https://www.macrumors.com/2023/08/10/macos-ventura-13-5-location-services-bug/
We just have to wait.
dragontorc wrote:
Apps no longer show up under Location Services under Privacy and Security after installing 13.5 update.
As a result users are unable to edit location permissions or see what apps have location access.
If a new app tries to request location services, it doesn’t show in System Settings so it’s impossible to enable it. Hopefully macOS 13.5.1 will address that issue.
Does the user ( dragontorc ) can to share what Apps are in question ?
Allow apps to detect the location of your Mac - Apple Support (CA)
Weather Guru, FindMy, Maps, Google Chrome, Safari and Siri are some of the apps that require location access.
App location privacy settings are no longer shown in the Security & Privacy preferences after applying the 13.5 update.
Due to this change users can't find a way to use the traditional slider switches to enable or disable access on the fly.
Of course I suppose the new design has already been implemented on macOS Sonoma, currently under development.
Thanks again for the useful information!
Yes the before and after are very correct 👍
Though, In the context of @ Locomotivation original query " Does 13.5 have a bug that makes it impossible to determine " and parsing the wording - Not a Bug but a Feature change
The Only Entity of Apple on there forums are the Apple Moderators
They work behind the scenes doing exactly that - moderating the forums.
IMHO - There has been sufficient advise offered for the User ( you ) to make an informed and educated choice what remedial actions are available to lodge their displease with this Feature change.
The suggestions have been put forth on a volunteer basis, in good faith and in the best interests of the computer.
Perhaps the broken location service issue is partially caused by the most recent security patch for AMFI.
This leads me to point out that patch in question is - supposedly but not likely - the culprit for all our nightmares.
You are so right! There are at least two other forums discussing it as a bug
You wonder why Ventura has the broken Location Privacy, so important to all of us.
Let's hope we will get a 13.5.1 soon that fix it.
My earlier post was deleted because I mentioned a Public Beta behaviour
and it's not allowed in these forums
I didn't know it. So I updated it.
Pretty sweet feature, thanks Apple! Now that I've purchased and updated my new macbook pro I cannot watch Hulu on it due to needing to grant Chrome access to Location Services.
After reading the comments it looks like its possible to fix this by disabling SIP, but that shouldn't be the expectation for the common user. Get a fix in place!
Guess I will need to think twice before updating to the next available OS.
BobZed wrote:
What factors allowed that post to be chosen as best answer? Is it just how many people clicked "Helpful"?
The original poster is in complete control of that. When you create a thread, you get to pick one "Best Answer" and two "Helpfuls". However, lots of people who are new to the forums (and some who aren't) don't quite understand how it works. Sometimes, you'll see people mark their own "Please why has no one answered me!?!" posts as "Best answer".
Sometimes you will see an "Apple recommended" answer. Those are chosen by the Hosts (Apple employees) in situations where the original poster hasn't selected a "Best Answer". I believe they base the choice on reading the answers and deciding which one best answers the question and does it in the way that reflects how Apple thinks it should be answered.
Tesserax wrote:
Sorry, very late to the party here, but isn't macOS Ventura 13.5 still in beta? ... with the latest public release being 13.4.1 (c)?
The current version is indeed 13.5. It was released on July 24th, which would have made it the day before the original post.
Thank you for confirming that! Hmm, I typically do get prompted for updates, but this one hasn't shown up on my M2 Pro Mac mini as of today. I'll see if I can get it "forced." Thanks again, I really appreciate it.
Tesserax wrote:
Thank you for confirming that! Hmm, I typically do get prompted for updates, but this one hasn't shown up on my M2 Pro Mac mini as of today. I'll see if I can get it "forced." Thanks again, I really appreciate it.
I'm usually a bit behind on my macOS updates.
BobZed wrote:
Your response, P. Phillips, is a bit hard to understand. It sounded like a reprimand, but I'm sure that was unintentional.
I find that I enjoy this site more if I keep in mind that community members come from a wide range of linguistic and cultural backgrounds. And, with the exception of the people pasting in answers from ChatGPT whose motives I've yet to discern, most people here are genuinely trying to help.
AppleBoy123 wrote:
Interesting. How do you identify the ChatGTP posts?
And, unfortunately, many of the litany of choices can be wrong or misleading, something that can be hard to identify if you are not familiar with the topic. For example, someone posting copypasta from a ChatGPT in response to a question on how to activate the cellular feature on an Apple Watch, stated that Apple Watches can have physical SIM cards or eSIM cards. Cellular Apple Watches have only ever used eSIMs.
Another giveaway is if the post says anything about "my knowledge doesn't extend past September 2021".
Also, I've never seen them respond to requests to clarify or provide additional information.
Location Privacy is broken after installing 13.5 update
