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Apps no longer show up under Location Services under Privacy and Security after installing 13.5 update.
As a result users are unable to edit location permissions or see what apps have location access.
If a new app tries to request location services, it doesn’t show in System Settings so it’s impossible to enable it. Hopefully macOS 13.5.1 will address that issue.
Mac mini (M1, 2020)
You seem determined to establish that this is a "feature change" rather than a bug but I would suggest that the evidence points to this being a bug and that feedback should be sent to Apple to highlight this to be corrected in a future 13.5.1 update. Firstly, the blue dot you refer to in the Menu Bar was introduced with the 13.3 update, so is not connected to this incident. Secondly, the support page you linked to still refers to the list of applications and the ability to switch permissions for individual apps. Thirdly, the System Settings window itself still contains the phrases "Allow the applications and services below to determine your location." and "(Arrow) Indicates an application that has used your location within the last 24 hours." If this "feature" has been deliberately removed, then these sentences are redundant and should've been removed also.
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AppleBoy123 wrote:
Interesting. How do you identify the ChatGTP posts?
And, unfortunately, many of the litany of choices can be wrong or misleading, something that can be hard to identify if you are not familiar with the topic. For example, someone posting copypasta from a ChatGPT in response to a question on how to activate the cellular feature on an Apple Watch, stated that Apple Watches can have physical SIM cards or eSIM cards. Cellular Apple Watches have only ever used eSIMs.
Another giveaway is if the post says anything about "my knowledge doesn't extend past September 2021".
Also, I've never seen them respond to requests to clarify or provide additional information.
lkrupp wrote:
Some initial responses to the issue seemed to advise it was an intentional change.
Not by me. In any case any such response would have been speculative. Which is why one shouldn't speculate.
bogdanw wrote:
Why is that answer still marked as “Best answer” when it’s clearly false information.
Once a reply is marked "Best Answer" or "Helpful" by the original poster, it is not changed, correct or not, accident or not.
Even after 13.5.1 your actual location won't appear, but the update does fix the "applications requesting your location" appearing in privacy and security. Yeah, the applications are now listed but when it comes to showing your location it's still not working.
Is your Mac connected via WiFi or network cable? Macs do not have GPS and therefore do not have the ability to know where they are. Having a WiFi connection allows only an approximation of your location by triangulating other WiFi signals.
For the record my Mac Studio Max knows where it's at
At the moment wifi over starlink. Even if I pull up Apple Maps on the MacBook I still get no location or weather results under “my location” yet now it finally shows up on the “Find My” app at a location I was at 2 days ago (I only updated my MacBook today) when it i’d get no results prior.
This feature change caused frustration among users who are now unable to edit their permission settings. I think the application list should be reinstated.
This is unacceptable to prevent users from editing their application permissions.
There is no mention about feature changes and deprecation removals on this release.
Just to clarify:
Does 13.5 have a bug that makes it impossible to determine or to configure which specific applications have location access permissions?
Thanks.
Yes it does
Can the user present a Screen Shot as an illustration ?
if it's a feature change, with 13.5 how to change location permission on single applications if there is no application list?
Refer to above reply to previous user
This is a bug and will be fixed.
Location Privacy is broken after installing 13.5 update
