Location Privacy is broken after installing 13.5 update

Apps no longer show up under Location Services under Privacy and Security after installing 13.5 update.


As a result users are unable to edit location permissions or see what apps have location access.


If a new app tries to request location services, it doesn’t show in System Settings so it’s impossible to enable it. Hopefully macOS 13.5.1 will address that issue.

Mac mini (M1, 2020)

Posted on Jul 25, 2023 1:02 AM

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Posted on Aug 19, 2023 1:34 AM

Why is that answer still marked as “Best answer” when it’s clearly false information.

“macOS Ventura 13.5.1 fixes an issue in System Settings that prevents location permissions from appearing.”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213268


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Jul 25, 2023 2:13 AM in response to dragontorc

dragontorc wrote:

Weather Guru, FindMy, Maps, Google Chrome, Safari and Siri are some of the apps that require location access.

App location privacy settings are no longer shown in the Security & Privacy preferences after applying the 13.5 update.


https://discussions.apple.com/content/attachment/597a0c29-0de6-4624-9b32-8b40ebbe8cbd

Yes, the Location Services in " Privacy & Security " has changed and does not Expressly List all the Applications that use this service.


This is a change in Appearance from previous version of Ventura


But it does not mean it is broken as per se


Have just done a few tests running some different Applications that would require this Location Service functions.


They all work as expected


I have noticed a newer appearance of an icon in Upper Right of the Menu Bar.


It will appear with a small Blue Dot and pulsate bright Blue and then to almost white each time an Application that uses the Location Service


It is part of the System Services which Location Service is part of it


We hope this answers your question or at least shed some light on it


All above is from a computer running Ventura 13.5




Aug 10, 2023 7:27 AM in response to dragontorc

It's pretty important to remove the "Best answer" mark from the P. Phillips post which says the location services issue is not a bug. It sends a seriously wrong message and it might make other websites slightly cautious about calling out this very serious bug.


I called Apple support. They were very clear that it is a bug and they are working hard to fix it. There should definitely not be an accepted response to the contrary on an official Apple discussion forum.

Jul 25, 2023 3:19 AM in response to dragontorc

dragontorc wrote:

Due to this change users can't find a way to use the traditional slider switches to enable or disable access on the fly.

Of course I suppose the new design has already been implemented on macOS Sonoma, currently under development.

Thanks again for the useful information!

Welcome and thank you too.


Aside - agree on the Slider aspect of your above


If you are so inclined >>


Then have a few suggestions ;


1 - Get Support Choose a product and we’ll find you the best solution.Start now and open an Apple Support Ticket as they are Apple Employees to deal will these types of issues . 


2 - Product Feedback - Apple and make it known to Apple regarding this ongoing issue 


As for macOS 14 Sonoma and anything related to Beta Software - I am not in a position to speculate

Jul 26, 2023 5:31 PM in response to annabelle

It appears that the security patch for Apple Mobile File Integrity is partially responsible for the bug we're talking about, though we don't have a clever evidence yet to determine if the patch in question is the main cause of the issue.


In many cases a bug report has been filed and a fix is currently in the works. We had to wait until macOS 13.5.1 finally pops out.

Aug 10, 2023 9:31 PM in response to AppleBoy123

For example…

If you're experiencing issues with location privacy after a software update, here are a few steps you can take:

  1. Check App Permissions: Make sure that your apps have the appropriate permissions to access your location. You can usually manage app permissions in your device settings.
  2. Location Services: Ensure that your device's location services are enabled and configured correctly. You can usually find these settings in the device's settings menu.
  3. Privacy Settings: Review your device's privacy settings and make sure you are comfortable with the level of location sharing you've enabled.
  4. Update Apps: Sometimes apps themselves might have bugs related to location privacy. Make sure all your apps are up to date from the respective app stores.
  5. Device Software Update: If the issue arose after a software update, check for any subsequent updates that might have been released to address bugs or issues.
  6. Contact Support: If none of the above steps resolve the issue, consider reaching out to the device manufacturer's support or visiting an authorized service center for assistance.

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