How to prevent iPhone from turning off when locked?

appnap96 wrote:

You are not getting my point, those users who want this feature will trigger it and those who do not need it will disable this feature. At least give the access to user's wish.

I get your point. You are not getting the point that what you're suggesting could render people's phones unusable until they are able to get to an Apple Store if something goes wrong and they can't restart the phone. And for no good reason. Even if you couldn't turn the phone off without a passcode, all the thief has to do is put the phone in a faraday bag and it will be disconnected from the network.

Apple is not likely to give people the option to brick their hardware in order to do accomplish....nothing.

gowtham137 wrote:

The person who stole from me yesterday definitely didn’t carry around faraday bag, and I’d doubt they knew what a faraday bag was - there are many opportunistic thieves looking to make a quick buck and this feature will help prevent it / deter it.

They may not call it a faraday bag but such things have been one of the standard tools of the trade for shoplifters and thieves for decades. They are also useful for disabling anti-theft alarms on merchandise. It's part of the reason so many retailers stopped bothering with those little tags. They were too easy to subvert.

appnap96 wrote:

it will cause problems, I accept that but if you lost your phone that will cost more than the phone price.

How will losing my phone cost me more than the phone price?

If the phone is stolen, I'm not getting it back, regardless of whether or not it was turned off.

huandney wrote:

It would really be very interesting if we could prevent it from turning off if the screen is locked.

If your idea of "really interesting" is "really bad", I guess so. In addition to not being helpful, it would actually be a problem for a lot of people. One of the most basic of troubleshooting steps is to turn the phone off and back on again, or, if necessary, to use a forced restart. What you're suggesting would make this impossible in some circumstances. And, the thief could just put the phone into a faraday bag until the battery dies anyway.

huandney wrote:

I think we could have other ways to force a reboot, such as when connected to a Mac or pc.

Suppose there's no computer available and you really need your phone. Again, it won't hurt or slow down the thieves at all. It will just make users' lives more difficult. What is the point in that?

IdrisSeabright wrote:

huandney wrote:

I think we could have other ways to force a reboot, such as when connected to a Mac or pc.

Suppose there's no computer available and you really need your phone. Again, it won't hurt or slow down the thieves at all. It will just make users' lives more difficult. What is the point in that?

This could be easily resolved by adding a user-choice option, meaning in the iPhone settings, we could enable forced restart only with another computer. This option wouldn't be the default setting.

I have lost my iPhone with iCloud find activated, but i am not able to track my phone as it is shutdown by the thief and currently offline. So my question is to how helpfull is this feature if someone can easyly turn off an iPhone while locked, making it unbale to be tracked ?

Apple should consider the fact that, No one should be able to shutdown any iphone while locked, to allow someone who loses his phones to track it quickly as the phone remaines open, locked and unshutdownable.

Please this feature is needed by the community. This is the second i have lost my iphone but am unable to find it even with the find option activated. very sad.

Allow me to reach this thread to Apple

Do you know any Apple developer that could at least make a setting to require a PIN to be able to NOT turn of the iPhone??

i see that you talk about Faraday bags and signal blocking devices but in the real world most people dont use that.

A 1000 dollars phone, should, at least, be able to NOT being turned off.

Bob Timmons, there are millions of people walking on the face of the earth right now that are not carrying faraday bags. Which means that they are not walking around with the intention of stealing. However, if they do come across a lost or a forgotten phone, many people will likely decide to keep it. In this case, the power off button option will come really handy and they will not be able to turn off the phone, allowing us to know the location until at least the battery has life. I don’t understand why people don’t get this point?

sonali86 wrote:

Bob Timmons, there are millions of people walking on the face of the earth right now that are not carrying faraday bags. Which means that they are not walking around with the intention of stealing. However, if they do come across a lost or a forgotten phone, many people will likely decide to keep it. In this case, the power off button option will come really handy and they will not be able to turn off the phone, allowing us to know the location until at least the battery has life. I don’t understand why people don’t get this point?

There are thousands of people out there who may need to restart their phones to resolve a technical issue. If they are unable to access the screen or the phone is completely frozen, what then? The simple restart that would resolve their issue is no longer possible. I don't understand why people don't get this point.

Who cares if it's not new? It's not a good reason that Apple has not acted on it, and as customers of Apple, we can hound them as much as we want to add this feature. Thieves power down your phone so they can't be tracked. As customers, we should be able to specify that none of the buttons work without entering a passcode, Face ID, etc.

Yeah it actually would dissuade thieves. A lot of thieves power off your phone so they can't be tracked. If customers have the option to disable the buttons on the phone when it's locked, that would start making thieves think twice before stealing a phone. A thief would absolutely have no way to power your phone off other than smashing it or taking it apart to get the battery out. And taking it apart takes time - which could give you long enough time to locate their location location and give it to the police.

TallBearNC wrote:

Yeah it actually would dissuade thieves. A lot of thieves power off your phone so they can't be tracked.

The don't need to power off the phone to prevent it from being tracked. All they need is a handy little device called a Faraday bag. They are practically standard equipment for shoplifters and phone stealers.

A thief would absolutely have no way to power your phone off other than smashing it or taking it apart to get the battery out.

Incorrect. See above.

Meanwhile, what about the folks who enabled such a feature and then had an issue with their phone and needed to restart it (a standard troubleshooting step)?

Do you mean you want to prevent it from going into standby? Or is it actually fully powering down?