Feeling electric current on MacBook Pro M1 with charger plugged in

It seems that the UK version of the Macbook Pro M1 is no longer delivered with a properly grounded extension cable with the charger, but rather with a small UK plug directly connected to the charging block. However, that plug is not grounded.


As a result I'm experiencing an extreme unpleasant electric tingling when touching the Macbook Pro when the charger is connected. It is really an annoying sensation. Considering the price of Euro 3000 for this top of the line product, I find it amazing that Apple saved at this vital point of electric safety.


I have attached the image of the plug coming with the box (bottom) and next to it (above) a wire from an older touch bar model. The latter clearly shows the grounding pins, which are missing in the plug. When using the extension from the older Macbook, the electric current is gone. So it is clearly the missing grounding causing the sensation of electric current on the casing.



Tomorrow I will visit the Apple store, let's see what they have to say. I will update the posting accordingly.


I'm seriously not impressed.

Posted on Aug 10, 2023 3:02 PM

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I know you said you don't want to hear it but I recommend as a troubleshooting step that you try another outlet, and/or a different building.

Millions of computers are sold and occasionally we see a post like yours. So the common factor that may be contributing has to be eliminated. If the issue is the adapter design we would see many more posts like yours. This is not to say that your adapter may be not correctly working, but other causes have to be explored and eliminated as well.

Posted on Aug 10, 2023 3:26 PM

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Aug 10, 2023 3:18 PM in response to flexier

I thought I check how much Voltage is on the casing, but the battery in my Voltmeter died. So I used a simple phase tester...and it lights up pretty strongly. Indicating quite a high Voltage on the case.



Again, when replacing the plug with an extension, no electricity at all on the casing. Pretty much expected of course, as the extension is grounded.


And before someone comes up with the suggestion that their could be something wrong in the grounding of my house...NO, the electricity in my house has been done properly and is under constant maintenance. I'm a freak when it comes to electric safety and proper installations.

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Aug 10, 2023 3:26 PM in response to flexier

I know you said you don't want to hear it but I recommend as a troubleshooting step that you try another outlet, and/or a different building.

Millions of computers are sold and occasionally we see a post like yours. So the common factor that may be contributing has to be eliminated. If the issue is the adapter design we would see many more posts like yours. This is not to say that your adapter may be not correctly working, but other causes have to be explored and eliminated as well.

Aug 10, 2023 3:39 PM in response to BobTheFisherman

I can quickly answer that. I have the same issue at work. Actually with a second second/spare power supply as I'm to lazy to carry the power supply with me on a daily basis. Besides, if the issue would be the building, using the grounded extension wire wouldn't make a difference.


The fact that people don't complain, doesn't mean I'm wrong. Many might actually pay the money for the extension and thereby don't have a problem at all. Also, only the UK and Malta would be effected as all other countries as far as I know have the building grounded on neutral (e.g. US). So in the US and many EU countries phase and neutral is all you need.


So your argument is pretty weak.

Aug 10, 2023 3:42 PM in response to flexier

flexier wrote:

I can quickly answer that. I have the same issue at work. Actually with a second second/spare power supply as I'm to lazy to carry the power supply with me on a daily basis. Besides, if the issue would be the building, using the grounded extension wire wouldn't make a difference.

The fact that people don't complain, doesn't mean I'm wrong. Many might actually pay the money for the extension and thereby don't have a problem at all. Also, only the UK and Malta would be effected as all other countries as far as I know have the building grounded on neutral (e.g. US). So in the US and many EU countries phase and neutral is all you need.

So your argument is pretty weak.

I'm not arguing I'm trying to help you troubleshoot. Troubleshooting is a process of elimination of possible causes. It appears you are experiencing symptoms not experienced by millions of computer users. I suggest you have your computer, and adapter, examined by an authorized service center.

Aug 10, 2023 3:57 PM in response to BobTheFisherman

I understand, and I appreciate you trying to help. But seriously, you might want to Google the subject. First article coming up is an advice for Apple users...


How to Stop Tingling and Electrical Feeling from MacBook Pro - Appuals.com


Look, I have a long history with Apple issues, from the famous 2014 model (or was it 2012?) with the anti-reflective coating going off and the GPU soldering going bad, to the touch bar version with failing batteries (well, a failing charge controller), failing SSD and simply one morning dead motherboards. My touch bar model was so many times replaced (or parts of it) within the EU 2 year guaranty, it easily amounted to 3 complete Macbooks.


I do not report problems, when I'm not certain about them.

Aug 18, 2023 3:19 AM in response to flexier

I am also experiencing this issue with a newly purchased M2 MacBook.



I feel the electrical sensation when trying the following:


  • Using the supplied mag safe cable and supplied two prong wall power adapter.
  • Tried different wall power outlets using the supplied power adapter.
  • Tried a non-Apple two prong wall power adapter used to charge my iPhone.
  • Tried connecting USBC to USBC, from the provided adapter to the MAC.
  • Touched 3x MacBook at a local authorised repair store, 2x Pro and 1x Air, and all had the same issue.



I do not feel the electrical sensation when trying the following:


  • Connecting the MAC via USBC to USBC, via a DELL docking station with power delivery.
  • Connecting the MAC via USBC to USBC, via a DELL monitor with hub with power delivery.
  • Connecting the MAC via Mag Safe cable with the USBC end connected to a dell docking station.
  • When disconnected.




I have been told this is normal, and expected, and is safe but no one wants to put that in writing. I am also being told that the 3x prong adapter cable extension may fix the issue.


Found this when searching YouTube:


MacBook electric shock leakage issue when charging

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7LIBftSAfk



Is this really safe? What if someone has a heart condition, or pacemaker?

Is electrical issue normal/expected?








Aug 18, 2023 5:13 AM in response to ku4hx

For once, I'm located in Malta and we have the UK system here. Every single wall socket must be grounded and all electric appliances require grounding (3-core wire). Some suppliers/manufacturers cheap out on this requirement...


As I pointed out in my comments, it is the original Apple short plug that is not grounded (see images). When I use the long original Apple extension cable (which is grounded), the problem disappears.


So this is not related to the electric installation of the buildings I'm working in (notice the plural).





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Aug 18, 2023 8:21 AM in response to cjt-dev

cjt-dev wrote:

• I am also experiencing this issue with a newly purchased M2 MacBook.


I feel the electrical sensation when trying the following:
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Is this really safe? What if someone has a heart condition, or pacemaker?
Is electrical issue normal/expected?




No it is not normal nor safe.

Take the computer to an authorized service center for inspection to eliminate computer issues.

Aug 18, 2023 1:03 PM in response to BobTheFisherman

You should watch the video before answering. The Apple service provider will tell you that this is how Apple is selling the product. If you don't like it, get the extension cable.


THIS IS NO DAMAGE OR PRODUCT FAULT, IT IS VERY POOR DESIGN.


What Apple should do for their high end products is to change the design of the short plug and give every customer of the current MacBooks having this badly designed charger a free upgrade!!!!!

Aug 18, 2023 2:56 PM in response to mwille64

Not everyone who owns these units is seeing the issues you are seeing. This is a possible fault in your sample of the product. You should contact official Apple Support or visit an Apple-Authorized Service Provider for help.


Readers here are other Users like you. Even if we all agreed with your point of view [which in my option is not accurate] All we can do about it from here is offer you advice.


My advice is, "Contact Apple."



Aug 18, 2023 5:09 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Called Apple several times, transferred several times. Having said that everyone I talked to was polite. However on the last call I was disconnected after lengthy period of time (no call back).


The process so far has been a process of discovery.


This electrical OOTB feature is not advertised when buying the MAC and it is unclear if this is a safety issue when using the MAC with the provided 2 prong adapter (especially for those who have heart conditions, pacemakers?).


When calling Apple Support (including technical support) some staff seem mildly aware of the issue. Some staff acknowledged that this issue was present on their MAC's to some degree.


No one wants to confirm the MAC as safe to use and now I am in a MAC return/replacement loop.











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