When is Apple going to recall 16inch Macbook Pros from late 2019 onwards?

16-in 2019 intel MacBook Pro heat and performance:

This computer was built with a ninth generation 14nm Intel processor. The only way to meet the target performance was to make it a six or eight core processor. This processor generates an enormous burst of heat when it does Turbo Boost, and there is only one cooling rail shared by both the CPU and GPU. So getting Either side too hot ramps up the fans.

This processor was supposed to be an eleventh-generation 7nm processor, but intel was three years late, and started to ship its tenth generation 10nm processors much later.

The drive in this computer is more than 100 times the typical speed of drives in computers a decade older. If you have installed software that wastes computer resources on a regular basis, such as third-party Virus Scanners, speeder-uppers, Cleaner-uppers/Removers, Optimizers, third-party file Sync-ers such as DropBox, BackBlaze, OneDrive, or GoogleDrive, or a VPN that you installed yourself, it will do busywork at previously-impossible speeds and causing seemingly-random panics, typically for access violations or page faults. — heating up at a ferocious rate.

This older junky software used to run as fast as it could, then would then have to suspend itself to wait for the disk drive to catch up before continuing to waste resources. With a really fast drive, that drive-speed restriction is gone. In many cases it still does not show up as using a lot of CPU, because it is doing a lot of intensive I/O, and not a lot of computing. That will still make your computer slow and heat up.

Apple DID redesign the cooling system for this specific Mac. New, high-efficiency fans are used. But for some uses, that is still not enough.

Some of the best practical advice is to install Turbo Boost Switcher and turn off CPU Turbo Boost. This reduces the huge sudden overheating brought on by Turbo Boost, that simply does not translate into real-world performance gains.

For external displays, changing away from HDMI to DisplayPort family (or to DisplayPort over ThunderBolt or USB-C) will reduce the Voltages and slightly reduce the heat generated. It is a good thing to do, but it may not be enough to solve this issue by itself.

hattie183 wrote:

I know SO many people have the same issue with this model. Totally out of balance overheating, i constantly have to give mine a rest and put a fan behind it to even edit very simple Full HD video. Does anyone yet know the root of the problem? My keyboard also broke out of nowhere, and i can't help but feel the constant overheating is just totally melting the inside. I really hope we get some sort of compensation because it's a totally useless worthless laptop that Apple won't even exchange lol. I've been hanging onto it, waiting for a recall due to these thermal issues before I get an M2 chip laptop. Does anyone know if this will happen or shall i just sell it for a few hundred? I have the late 2019 model, 16 inch with AMD Radeon Pro 5300M 4 GB.

I have that exact model and have had no issues since 2019...

Recall programs/ service programs are based on are triggered by the percentage of all MBP of this spec vs the number of failures documented.

I am not privy to this %, or have any more insight.

however you can submit your Apple Feedback here: Product Feedback - Apple

Keep your Mac notebook within acceptable operating temperatures

Keep your Mac laptop within acceptable operating temperatures - Apple Support

Uninstall all third party apps that are Cleaners/Optimizers/Anti-Virus/VPN

all known to cause issues on the macOS

The current stable release of Ventura including bug fixes, security updates is macOS Ventura 13.5.2

Keep your Mac up to date - Apple Support

Keep your Mac up to date - Apple Support

hattie183 wrote:

Regardless of performance does your machine get incredibly hot? I've followed every suggestion to try and get it to run normally, and I've reset my machine from scratch. (I have previously messed around in terminal for a coding project and was worried I'd missed something there)

I tried to state clearly above— I have no issue. It can get warm yes.

On this model if the Mac is on the fans are on, and idle at ~1200rpm and only ramp up ~6000rpm as needed. If the Mac was too hot, it would shut itself down.

If you think you have an issue take it in.

In or out of warranty you can get a free over the counter 'Apple Service Diagnostics' test /assessment

Make an appointment for a "hardware issue"

Genius Bar Reservation and Apple Support Options - Apple

Outside the USA

Contact Apple for support and service - Apple Support

from the Terminal.app you can monitor fan speed...

sudo powermetrics | grep Fan

to kill the process use the Control C 

<, waiting for a recall >>

Apple agrees that this computer is not the future of Macintosh, so this is the LAST MacBook Pro using Intel i9 processor technology, and shortly after this one ALL intel MacBook Pro models were discontinued.

Apple has a history of responding to problems it sees and intractable or unfair well inside the three-year mark. This computer is already past that mark, and if you have not seen relief directly from Apple by now, [in my opinion] it is not coming.

Hi,

Nobody knows except Apple guys.

Try to feedback directly to Apple.

Product Feedback - Apple

In addition, if you got a laptop to regularly use it for editing videos, you need to the right tool for the job. 4 GB RAM does not cut it - 16 would be the minimum as well as a top notch processor and a 512 GB drive. In other words, a desktop iMac or similar. Otherwise you are stressing out the machine. Editing/rendering videos is a resource intensive process.

<<. I have the late 2019 model, 16 inch with AMD Radeon Pro 5300M 4 GB. >>

I did not notice the shockingly low RAM installed on first reading.

We have been telling users since Mavericks was issued, and especially after 10.11 El Capitan was issued, that running MacOS in a reasonably-responsive way requires MORE than 4 GB of RAM.

Your bought a Mac that is well below recommended amounts of RAM -- just for running MacOS alone -- and are then trying to get high-end performance from it. Anything you do on that Mac will be slow.

That Mac was sold for use in environments with low RAM requirements, such as a student's computer. You have WILDLY under-equipped it for use in editing videos.

That’s 4GB on the video card, Grant.

I don’t believe there any 2019 MacBook Pros with only 4GB of RAM.

Ok then 4GB of main RAM is not your issue.

I stand corrected.