on my primary device I have iCloud -> contacts turned off, also handoff is turned off on both devices.
Before iOS 17.0, each of my 2 devices has its private call log & contacts.
After iOS 17.0 on both devices, I started to see the call history of both devices on my primary device.
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iPhone 13 Pro Max, iOS 17
AlFrued wrote:
I carry 2 iPhones with the same Apple id since ages, and I don’t want to get confused by which phone initiated personal or business calls.
Its unreasonable to maintain more than one Apple ID after all of this years.
I already reported a bug to Apple. And I came here to see if anyone else noticed/fixed this.
It's not a bug. If you carry two phones – one for work, and one for personal use – for "security" reasons, then it stands to follow that you should "firewall" your accounts and have two Apple ID accounts, as well.
The call history sharing might be new, but there is all sorts of other sharing linked to having the same Apple ID. Sharing that's been around for a long time. E.g., keychain passwords, photos, contacts, calendars, reminders, notes, and files on iCloud Drive.
iMessages are also linked to your Apple ID, whether you use "Messages in iCloud" or not.
IdrisSeabright wrote:
Please note that ChatGPT is not infrequently wrong and also just makes up answers. It is not, at this stage of its development, reliable.
As these lawyers found out …
AP – Lawyers blame ChatGPT for tricking them into citing bogus case law
Reuters - New York lawyers sanctioned for using fake ChatGPT cases in legal brief
It's not too smart to present works of total fiction to a Federal Judge. Especially ones that are obvious gibberish, and that the judge reads aloud in court, to show how easy it would be to see that they are gibberish!
Yes it’s my work phone and my personal phone. I have stopped the sync on my own, it is now working like I designed it to an actual separate phone, and has been for about a month now. Not sure why this horse is being beat to death. A temporary solution has been found, and it works well, and should be pinned at the top so people can see it before any more conversation is started by someone else.
Servant of Cats wrote:
IdrisSeabright wrote:
Please note that ChatGPT is not infrequently wrong and also just makes up answers. It is not, at this stage of its development, reliable.
As these lawyers found out …
AP – Lawyers blame ChatGPT for tricking them into citing bogus case law
Reuters - New York lawyers sanctioned for using fake ChatGPT cases in legal brief
It's not too smart to present works of total fiction to a Federal Judge. Especially ones that are obvious gibberish, and that the judge reads aloud in court, to show how easy it would be to see that they are gibberish!
I love that story!
Jclind66 wrote:
My wife and I have separate ids for messaging and face time but share an id for everything else so we have a shared calendar and notes there is currently no way to separate the phone from the calendar and notes like there is with messaging. Apple needs to fix this ASAP.
That is highly unlikely as Apple is quite clear that they view an Apple ID as something that should not be shared. But, you can let them know your thoughts here:
At least in my case I am talking to Apple through the link provided as well working with second level Apple Support. It has been fully documented and forwarded to engineering. I am sharing here solely to provide some information to others who also consider this a bug and fully support more of you to follow-up with Apple as I have.
Actually, you may think you own the software, but you don't. You have a license to use the software on your iPhone by virtue of buying the phone. But Apple owns the software and they don't need anyones permission to do what they choose to do with their software. And before you get angry about that, remember that I'm a user, just like you're a user and only telling you how software works. None of us own the software we use, even if we pay a license right to use it.
I know about the software, it’s no different than a Vehicle purchased and the software installed in it. I am disputing the argument that apple does not want ID’s shared. IMO thats none of their business what a person does with their ID and hows its used. I dont get texts on all devices, so the call log should be the same.
The data being shared should be in control by the user. The phone log sync is no longer in control of the user like other things are.
The purpose of a user forum is to help the user discuss whats not working for them, that discussion has helped others with this topics complaint. There is a way around it, if Apple chooses not to support the user and how the user desires to setup their phone, than users will look elsewhere to get the device that works for them.
Caper1111 wrote:
I know about the software, it’s no different than a Vehicle purchased and the software installed in it. I am disputing the argument that apple does not want ID’s shared.
There is no argument about that. Apple has explicitly stated that everyone should have their own Apple ID.
IMO thats none of their business what a person does with their ID and hows its used. I dont get texts on all devices, so the call log should be the same.
You are absolutely entitled to that opinion. But, that doesn't mean Apple has any obligation to change how they do things.
Caper1111 wrote:
I am the user to figured out how to stop the call sync, and that has helped others when they followed the instructions that I posted.
Great job!
But, if you fixed the issue, I'm not sure why you're still complaining about it.
I think someone in apple trying to push people to use another devices, cuz since i use 2 iphones, if this issue didnt change, myself, i will get rid of one if the iphones, and switch to android,
seriously. If my both phones sharing calls, then why should i have 2 devices, My primary number started to get calls from my customers ( business phone )
this is need to bre adjusted, and dont say in comment. Dont share your apple ID
cuz its my id fot my iphones, and my ipad
if this issue id not solved, i would like to know, cuz i think this its time to change!
Grappler_ wrote:
I think someone in apple trying to push people to use another devices, cuz since i use 2 iphones, if this issue didnt change, myself, i will get rid of one if the iphones, and switch to android,
seriously. If my both phones sharing calls, then why should i have 2 devices, My primary number started to get calls from my customers ( business phone )
this is need to bre adjusted, and dont say in comment. Dont share your apple ID
cuz its my id fot my iphones, and my ipad
if this issue id not solved, i would like to know, cuz i think this its time to change!
Tell Apple:
This is a serious bug IMHO and very frustrating. I don’t want my call history to appear on my work phone at all. Plus, I don’t know if people call my work phone and that was synced to my personal phone or call my personal phone and that was synced to my work phone…
Agreed, The argument and reasoning doesn’t make sense. So I cannot share my ID amongst my apple products?
I can prevent work texts from syncing on my devices and vise versa but not a phone call log between two different phone numbers?
Anyway. The temporary fix I have works and no more call syncing.
Nobody is arguing their point with you anymore than you with them. We are simply pointing out that your logic is flawed and seemingly inccorect. It’s not an attack. We are simply asking if this, why that. I think you know that sharing an Apple ID with someone is not even remotely close to having two devices with the same Apple ID. In fact, that is the very point of the ID.
Maybe we can just focus on technical things here instead. Like, perhaps what the phone slider is for in the cloud settings. I’d love to get your take on that.
Right from your link. FYI the topic is not about family members sharing ID’s. I dont agree with the family members sharing a ID.
I can shut this off been doing it for years and I still can. So apple doesn’t even know how their product is setup or supposed to work?
iPhone call history shared between devices after iOS 17 Update
