Slow Mac after upgrading to Sonoma 14.0 OS

There’s definitely a serious issue with Sonoma. I have a tricked out MacPro (56 GB Ram + 8 TB SSD) but when I just went from Ventura to Sonoma 14.1.1 two days ago, my $18,000 system has become unusable. Your comparisons between the 2 Macs confirms that. I did find the having only one monitor calms down the extreme mouse stuttering, but not much else helps. Using After Effects and Premiere Pro is a nightmare.

There’s something deeply wrong with Sonoma, up to & including 14.1.1 (I guess you must be using a prerelease of 14.2, which apparently also doesn’t work).

I have a MacStudio M1 Max, 64GB of RAM, 2TB internal PCIe SSD drive. I did not have a problem with Monterey, when I upgraded to Ventura, I had various problems and hoped they would be fixed in Sonoma, but not only are they not fixed, now my computer takes a very long time to start, my mouse is erratic, when before it started very very fast and had no mouse issue.

I've been a Mac user since 1986, have done Mac IT, training, teaching for years, but lately I'm seeing that the engineers at Apple are faltering more and more. I believe it's that there's no one there like Steve Jobs who made sure that the system was as totally efficient. Very disappointing.

kohanmike wrote:

I have a MacStudio M1 Max, 64GB of RAM, 2TB internal PCIe SSD drive. I did not have a problem with Monterey, when I upgraded to Ventura, I had various problems and hoped they would be fixed in Sonoma, but not only are they not fixed, now my computer takes a very long time to start, my mouse is erratic, when before it started very very fast and had no mouse issue.

It is interesting that you state that the M1 computer cannot run newer macOSs well, other than the macOS it came with, in your case Monterey. Why? Can you elaborate on that?

You most probably had all those problems, just because you were using those 3rd party modifier apps from the beginning. 😏

The best advice would have been is to uninstall all those 3rd party modifier apps, and let macOS take care of itself and to update to the newer macOS.

I've always used Macs so I don't have to do all those Windows-like, time-consuming tasks as an end user. I haven't seen anything from Apple, but maybe I've missed it - what do they say, and when will they fix it, so everyone doesn't have to take six hours to make their new Mac OS work?

Gandalf47 wrote:

I've always used Macs so I don't have to do all those Windows-like, time-consuming tasks as an end user. I haven't seen anything from Apple, but maybe I've missed it - what do they say, and when will they fix it, so everyone doesn't have to take six hours to make their new Mac OS work?

We are not Apple here, only users. If you want to get Apple's attention send a feedback to them using the Feedback Assistant.

MacOS update, by the way, takes just ~20 minutes.

I know. I thought maybe someone here had read something. Sorry. I didn't realize that we just come here to complain to each other. I was hoping to understand why this is happening.Obviously, Apple has heard about it, so I am seeking whatever data is available on the subject in any venue. I'd just like my once fast, reliable computer to be able to be friendly with Sonoma.

Gandalf47 wrote:

I know. I thought maybe someone here had read something. Sorry. I didn't realize that we just come here to complain to each other. I was hoping to understand why this is happening.Obviously, Apple has heard about it, so I am seeking whatever data is available on the subject in any venue. I'd just like my once fast, reliable computer to be able to be friendly with Sonoma.

No, this is not a complain site, but a user-help-user site.

When I first came here, I came here to learn from other people, who went out of their way to help others. They didn't have to , but they do. And, now I try to help too, whenever possible. I am a new macOS user, but with lot of Linux knowledge, hence much easy to learn this UNIX based OS.

The best way to get people to help you is to open your own thread with your problem. It is also better to describe your problem, rather than complaining. Complaining makes people stay away and out of any future arguments.

Also, it is always better to send a feedback to Apple.

Why open a new thread? My problem is indentical to many on this thread, even some with the same hardware configuration. My inquiry was substantialed by similar comments, but no conclusive fixes. I think there is something fundamental to Sonoma which needs attention by Apple. They know about the problem by now. I'd like to know why it's happening and why it isn't fixed yet. I think others here feel similarly.

Thanks for trying to explain.

Gandalf47 wrote:

Why open a new thread? My problem is indentical to many on this thread, even some with the same hardware configuration.

No two people have the same problem. Open your own thread, people will try to help you.

I think there is something fundamental to Sonoma which needs attention by Apple. They know about the problem by now. I'd like to know why it's happening and why it isn't fixed yet. I think others here feel similarly.

You are knocking on the wrong door here. There's no Apple here, only users. This is a user-to-user community.

If you want to have Apple's attention, send in a feedback. Someone will read it.

Of course it did! That's why I haven't done it.

What, you think Apple wants to give new updates so your old Mac works perfectly? They want to make your old one obsolete and make you frustrated so you go spend thousands of dollars to buy a new machine when the old one was working perfectly.

I can't stand it. It's making me want to just get a completely different brand of laptop when I upgrade in a couple of months.

After contacting MS first line and escalation support the conclusion was to contact Apple and that Sonoma was known to have problems with Office365;

After contacting Apple First line, Escalation and Engineering support Apple referred me back to MS and advised me to copy the error report that is normally sent to Apple and send that to MS and contact them;

After contacting MS again they took receipt of the error report and would send it to their engineering teams.

So the merry-go-round continues with fingers crossed that MS will do something with it or Apple as they received multiple auto-generated reports from my system already.

I have exactly same problem on my Mac Mini M2 1TB 32GB bought in Jan 2023. not having a standard Apple KB (I switch between Mini and PC with a switchbox) makes it (impossible?) to get into safe mode, Time Machine recovery so I ordered an Apple Magic KB which should arrive today. I will try some of these suggestions, although it looks like folks are not having success.

It would be cool if Apple had some like windows utility PROCMON

Same issue. M1 Mac Mini, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD. After upgrading from Ventura to Sonoma, login easily takes 3 times as long as with previous versions of the MacOS. Nothing about my configuration changed except the OS, so spending time diagnosing seems a silly waste of time. The problem is the OS. Apple needs to address this. Happy to provide information to the appropriate department. Will file bug on Developer site.

Unless I read it incorrectly, it appears you had an external flash drive plugged in that's formatted FAT32?

Have you tried ejecting that drive, then rebooting to see if there's any startup time difference?