Wifi speeds much slower than wired speeds on 3 seperate New Apple products

I have the following new Apple products

Macbook Air 15

Iphone 15 Pro Max

Ipad Air (current model with M1 chipset)


All three of these Apple products were purchased new from Apple within the past 30 days

My internet provider is Frontier Fios and my speed is 1000mb/1000mb

If I used wired connections my speed is between 900mb and 1000mb which is great

My wifi speeds are around 400-500mb down and 200-300mb up

My routers are the model eero 6e and are all brand new

I have tried IPv6 vs IPv4, no difference


I have called eero support multiple times and they can find nothing wrong

I have called Apple support one time on my Macbook Air 15 and lets say it was the worst Apple support experience I have ever had, the person could of cared less what my issue was


All my Apple device are on the latest versions of software, I am not running any anti virus software or any cleaner type software


My eero routers are all running the latest software from eero


So are these slower wifi speeds an Apple only issue ?


While I run my Macbook Air 15 as wired it works great, I do not expect wifi speeds to reach wired speeds at all

but I think they should be closer


I originally had eero 6 pro routers, same speed challenges in wifi so I upgraded all my routers to eero 6e which have higher wired and wifi speeds, I am not trying to exceed my ISP speeds, my main objective is to get the wifi if possible in the 600-800mb/s speed


I have lost track of how many times I have restarted each device, nothing is changing


While I am not having buffering issues on wifi in my home, I would feel better if I was getting more wifi performance


Since my wired speeds are pretty much as published, its hard for me to blame the ISP


FYI I was seeing slower wired upload speeds to I eliminated my ISPs modem which I already had its router disabled on and went directly into my eero 6e


Now my upload speeds are very fast each time I run a test


I am trying two different speed test sites


https://speedtest.frontier.com/

https://www.speedtest.net/


The first one is with my ISP provider the second one is not, both pretty much show the same results


FYI if I run the speed test within my eero application which is wired only it shows the 900-1000mb/s speed which pretty much matches my wired speeds on my actual devices


So any ideas how to get my Apple devices to have faster wifi speeds ?


And I did do a bunch of searches before creating this request for help


Thanks in advance




MacBook Air (M2, 2023)

Posted on Dec 23, 2023 5:36 PM

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Dec 24, 2023 5:28 AM in response to TomRaz78

From several reviews that I have read about the Eero 6E, you need to be right next to the router to obtain high speeds and some report even then the speed isn't that great. Move away and the speeds start to drop dramatically. This is generally true with all WiFi routers with some much better than others. There have also been issues with Eero routers having difficult time determining how to connect to different devices.


Unfortunately, most of the latest mesh routers have taken much of the users control out of their hands for "ease of set up". For instance, the routers only have a single ID and it decides which radio bands you can connect to, and I believe the Eero line is one of those. More sophisticated WiFi routers will have separate IDs for 2.4, 5, and 6 GHz bands and a client device can chose which network to connect to for either performance or reach (2.4GHz band can connect at longer distances than the 5 and 6 GHz bands but is slower). Each of those bands is broken up in several channels and if in a WiFi busy neighborhood, if the router picks a channel that is very busy with other wiFi traffic, speed will also be degraded. Again, in more sophisticated routers, you can have the option to chose which channel you can communicate over to move away from those busy channels.


There is also a bit of smoke and mirrors on WiFi specs. While they can claim blazing speeds, in reality many just provide more bandwidth to more devices while not providing that bandwidth to single devices, i.e. 4 devices simultaneously working at 300 Mb/s (totaling 1.2 Gb/s).


Lastly, one thing that can greatly affect WiFi speeds is the environment. Are you in a relatively densely populated neighborhood with lots of people with WiFi? Is the router located near a lot of other electronic or electrical devices? There are many other such things that can degrade the performance at WiFi frequencies especially the higher ones. So, one thing to try may be relocate the router higher, away from any other electronics or electrical devices, etc.


So, the whole WiFi world is very complex and most of the time solutions to speed issues are not simple and difficult to resolve if at all. It is not surprising that the first level help that you get when you call support cannot be of much use as they are trained only for the most common issues.


Dec 24, 2023 5:52 AM in response to woodmeister50

Thank you for your response, yes the mesh routers do indeed remove pretty much manual control, my main mesh router that acts like the gateway is about 12 inches from my laptop


I long for the days when I used to have a Linksys 802 a/b/n router I think it was called a WRT54G


Oh well I guess I am a victim of ease of use vs have manual control


While I am very much a technical person, I guess I gave up this when I went with mesh routers, the main thing I was looking for in using mesh was stability, which it does provide


I have tried non mesh routers and while they have lots of options they have coverage issues and stability issues


Well I guess i have to choose one or the other, I think I will stay in the mesh camp

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