Copying Folders and SmartWord collections between Libraries on the SAME drive.

I'm trying to downsize a huge Library, but creating a new Library and copying selected Folders containing SmartWord collections into this new Library.


I created a NEW Library. I dragged the 'Folder' with all the 'SmartWord collections' from the ORIGINAL (too big) Library over into the main 'Event' of the NEW Library. FCPX copied over the 'Folder' and the titles of all the 'SmartWord collections' ... BUT no actual 'Projects' or 'Clips'??? All the 'SmartWord Collections' are seemingly empty. Nothing there. Just the title.


Is FCPX wanting me to 'Consolidate' after I copy the 'Folder' with 'SmartWord Collections' over?


None of the tutorials I've watched mention having to 'Consolidate' when copying between two Libraries on the SAME drive. I want to avoid somehow inadvertently doubling up the 'Media'.


So I'm seriously needing advice here. Help!


Ben

MacBook Pro (2017 – 2020)

Posted on Jan 11, 2024 1:53 PM

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Posted on Jan 11, 2024 2:01 PM

A smart collection is simply an instruction set to look for media with specific criteria. If you put it in an empty library it won’t find anything that matches what it’s looking for. It’s not a folder in any sense.


What you can do in the original library is make a new event and copy, make sure you hold the option key, the clips in the collection to the new event. You can then copy that event to the new library.

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Jan 11, 2024 2:01 PM in response to Ben Low

A smart collection is simply an instruction set to look for media with specific criteria. If you put it in an empty library it won’t find anything that matches what it’s looking for. It’s not a folder in any sense.


What you can do in the original library is make a new event and copy, make sure you hold the option key, the clips in the collection to the new event. You can then copy that event to the new library.

Jan 11, 2024 3:04 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Just learned something. I created a new Event in the Original Library. I attempted to copy-drag the main 'Folder' containing all the 'SmartWord Collections' over to the new Event (in the same Library). The same thing happens ... titles but no projects or clips. Duh.


Then I discovered if I copy over 1. all the Projects; then 2. all the Clips, directly, ignoring the Folders and SmartWord Collections ... everything copies over beautifully INCLUDING the Folders and SmartWord Collections I've created. Most wonderful.


Now I'm copying that Event to the New Library (holding down the option key). It's taking a precious long time. The Background Tasks show FCPX seems to be doing a 'Transcoding and Analysis' of every single clip. That's a few hundred clips. Looks like it will take hours. I was under the impression that copying between two Libraries on the same drive does not produce NEW media; that both Libraries access the SAME media, unless I move the NEW Library to a NEW dive, then I have to 'Consolidate' the New Library to the New drive, thus creating or copying all the relevant Media to the New drive.


Maybe you could tell me what all this 'Transcoding' is? The 'Event' is a 1 hour film with a lot of multi-cam. Could the multi-cam have something to do with this?


Okay, ****, I'm watching the space on the RAID drive disappear. Now I'm getting nervous.



Jan 11, 2024 3:48 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

"Select the library and use g=delete generated library files. Remove all render, optimized, and proxy as you like. This doesn't affect analysis files, which should be in the cache bundle."


Not quite getting this here. I click on the Library file in the Browser. In the Inspector I can see I've got 2.7 TB of Original Content. Optimized 411.7GB, and Proxy 64.8GB.


What does use g=delete generated library files mean?

Jan 11, 2024 3:29 PM in response to Ben Low

Hard links on APFS drives. It doesn't duplicate existing files. Nonetheless folders that duplicate media will both have the save value of expended space. You can easily end up in a situation where the sum of the folder content far exceeds the capacity of the drive. I think what you're seeing is the disk changing its count as things move around.

Jan 11, 2024 3:38 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Craziness is setting in. I was copying the Clips and Projects in a single Folder into a NEW Event, which I then copied to a NEW Library.


I look at the NEW Event in the NEW Library ... and it looks like the entire friggin' Event has been copied (are being copied) over. This was one film, all clips and projects in a single folder in a single original Event. But there were 24TB's worth of multiple films in that Event (when including Media), organized in Folders and SmartWord Collections instead of 'Events'. There are only 32 TB's available in the RAID setup. I'm thinking I better stop all this transcoding. I suspect I've messed up.

Jan 11, 2024 4:15 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Found it! Ha. When I think how many times I've done this (deleted generated files), but not recently. FCPX not-like-riding-a-bike.


I see my NEW Library is only 500 Megs. The Original Library was 7 GBs.


Now in the Event I've copied over from the Original Library -- which I thought would be just the single film 'Folder' with its collection of 'SmartWord Collections, but instead is scores of SmartWord Collections from all the separate Folders in the Original Event of Original Library.


I'm thinking I could just delete all the non-relevant SmartWord Collections and I'd be alright, right Tom? Just keeping the SmartWord collections relevant to this particular film, which will now be the sole film in this NEW Library.


Thank you most kindly for all your help today Tom; it's been great, and enormously appreciated.


Ben

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