Catalina Spotlight does not find Mail documents

Since Upgrading my iMac from Mojave to Catalina, Spotlight nor Mail Search finds any Mail documents?

iMac 21.5″, macOS 10.15

Posted on Feb 1, 2024 1:37 PM

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Posted on Feb 1, 2024 2:44 PM

Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at startup), does the problem occur in Safe Mode? Could take 10 minutes.


Safe mode attempts to repair Disks & clears lots of caches & loads safe Drivers, & prevents loading of 3rd party extensions, so if Safe Mode works try again in regular boot.


Sounds like you need to rebuild the Spotlight Index...


How to rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac

If searching your Mac doesn’t return expected results, rebuilding the Spotlight index might help.


Choose Apple menu () > System Preferences, then click Spotlight.

Click the Privacy tab.

Drag the folder or disk that you want to index again to the list of locations that Spotlight is prevented from searching. Or click the Add (+) button and select the folder or disk to add.

To add an item to the Privacy tab, you must have ownership permissions for that item. To learn about permissions, choose Help from the Finder menu bar, then search for “permissions.”

From the same list of locations, select the folder or disk that you just added. Then click the Remove (–) button to remove it from the list.

Quit System Preferences. Spotlight will reindex the contents of the folder or disk.

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Feb 1, 2024 2:44 PM in response to David Bivans1

Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at startup), does the problem occur in Safe Mode? Could take 10 minutes.


Safe mode attempts to repair Disks & clears lots of caches & loads safe Drivers, & prevents loading of 3rd party extensions, so if Safe Mode works try again in regular boot.


Sounds like you need to rebuild the Spotlight Index...


How to rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac

If searching your Mac doesn’t return expected results, rebuilding the Spotlight index might help.


Choose Apple menu () > System Preferences, then click Spotlight.

Click the Privacy tab.

Drag the folder or disk that you want to index again to the list of locations that Spotlight is prevented from searching. Or click the Add (+) button and select the folder or disk to add.

To add an item to the Privacy tab, you must have ownership permissions for that item. To learn about permissions, choose Help from the Finder menu bar, then search for “permissions.”

From the same list of locations, select the folder or disk that you just added. Then click the Remove (–) button to remove it from the list.

Quit System Preferences. Spotlight will reindex the contents of the folder or disk.

Feb 5, 2024 4:32 AM in response to David Bivans1

Not on Catalina, instead on macOS 14.3. The principle is the same though. One must have Mail & Messages selected in the System Preferences : Spotlight : Search Results categories.


I received an email from Sublime HQ Pty in Australia with a license key for the Sublime Text 4 editor. It is in my emails somewhere, and this simple search from Spotlight external to Apple Mail finds that email in one attempt:


kind:mail sublime



In the Mail application itself, I only need enter sublime in the search field and get immediate results.


If I wanted to see all emails from a person's unique name string (first names may create too many unwanted hits) delivered after (>) Jan 01. Note that received, or date received simply won't work here.


kind:mail from:kantness subject:birthday created:>01/01/2024



Feb 3, 2024 5:32 PM in response to David Bivans1

I'd do the whole home folder..


Do a Get info on your Home folder, unlock the lock in the Get Info panel. Make sure it says you have Read & Write privileges.

Using the tiny gear icon, use the drop down to "Apply to enclosed items...


If still need be…


Open Terminal and run each of these one at a time


/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Versions/A/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user


sudo /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Frameworks/LaunchServices.framework/Support/lsregister -kill -seed -lint -r -f -v -dump -domain local -domain system -domain user -domain network


killall Dock


sudo mdutil -E /


sudo mdutil -i on /

Feb 7, 2024 7:37 AM in response to BDAqua

Making sure that my Home folder has Read & Write privileges makes no difference with Mail of Spotlight searching. However, tried this.


Logged into my wife's user and went to her Apple Mail account. Tried search and Spotlight with only her mail account enabled. Both searched immediately. Then added my Apple Mail account and both searched within Mail and with Spotlight. Both searched immediately and as it should!


So search works with my Apple Mail account in her user but not in mine.


Any ideas will be appreciated.



Feb 3, 2024 5:09 PM in response to BDAqua

Tried both recommendations several times but with no success. Neither Spotlight nor Mail will search. Having worked with Mac's since 1965 individually and as the administrator of my company's 25+ Mac network for 30 of those years, it feels like a permissions issue blocking searching of Mail documents. Any thought on what folders I might check permissions and what should they be since I my user is an administrator?

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