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FCP Runs Slow on iMac Pro

I have an iMac Pro (2019) with the following spec:


Processor: 2.3 GHz 18-Core Intel Xeon W (with 1TB SSD)

Graphics : Radeon Pro Vega 56 8 GB

Memory: 128 GB 2666 MHz DDR4

IOS: 14.4.1


Final Cut Pro: 10.7.1


External HDs - various from 8TB Samsung T5 SSD to Promise Pegasus32 R6 24TB (a hateful thing) and Seagate 10TB Backup Plus.


All media is outside the Library

All Libraries are stored on the Mac internal SSD which has more than 50% free space (and is VERY fast).

All external HDs have a minimum of 10% free space.


Regardless of which HD the original media is on, when I use a Library which has more than a couple of hundred clips, FCP is very slow to navigate between libraries or to browse clips. It stops responding, and sometimes takes more than a minute for the beach ball to go away.


I don't really understand Activity Monitor, but I see no big spikes on CPU use (which is about 1.5% when running FCP). Memory use is about 15GB total (of which FCP is using about 2.6) when the beach ball is active.


I'm at a loss with this. Clearly, I get the issue more often with Libraries which contain a lot of clips, but after the delay, the system works fine.


I have deleted all Generated render, proxy and optimised files - and of course, ditched the preferences several times.


I'd buy a newer Mac if I was sure it would overcome the problem, but as Activity Monitor doesn't suggest the Mac is anywhere near its working limit, I can't see that it would make any difference.


One of the libraries has around 5000 clips of smaller size (mostly 1080p and 720p). The other library has around 1600 clips most of which are 4k.


I get the same problem with either library.


Any knowledgeable advice will be most welcome...


Andy


iMac Pro, macOS 13.5

Posted on Apr 22, 2024 2:40 AM

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Apr 25, 2024 4:09 PM in response to andynick

I have now examined the spindump extensively, and believe the problem might be the large number of synchronous I/O operations being performed to inspect assets and check proxy availability whenever switching between original/proxy media. The high thread count and GCD queue utilization indicates FCP is processing a complex task with many assets, maybe thousands of clips.


How many of your media files in all libraries on this machine have proxies? Are the proxies stored inside the library (the default) or did you define an external storage location (ie outside the library)? If so, what drive type are those on, and what drive type is the library itself on?


I have edited documentaries using a library containing 8,500 4k H.264 clips, all of which used proxies, and that was on an iMac Pro. It was a bit sluggish but I had no problems switching between proxies and regular media. The library was on the internal SSD and the media was on a 32TB OWC Thunderbolt 4-drive RAID-0 array. In this case I used the FCP Library Inspector to define a separate storage location for the proxies. I think I had those on another drive array.


Your Etrecheck report shows you have several kernel panics, the last of which was on 4-15-24. Do you remember the circumstances? Did the entire machine crash or spontaneously reboot?


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May 4, 2024 4:01 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Right again Luis!

Over the past few days we bought four 8TB Glyph SSDs and the problem has completely gone away!


I didn't realise that four SSDs wouldn't work via the four Thunderbolt 3 ports on my Mac though! Three worked wonderfully, but the fourth wouldn't join in the fun, so we had to shell-out for a CalDigit TS3Plus Dock - that fixed it!


Now we just need to get over the shock of parting with more money than a pretty powerful new Mac Studio would cost!


Thanks again to everyone who helped and advised on this issue.

May 4, 2024 7:04 AM in response to andynick

Just to set a benchmark here, I am running an iMac Pro with a very quiet Promise Pegasus3 R8, very fast, no issues. In fact, I'm surprised my M1 Pro Max MBP is not really much faster than the iMac Pro, except for exporting from FCPX, which is sort of kind of significantly faster, but not blazingly faster. 50% of my system drive is free space (it's only the system drive that needs the free space, secondary drives don't matter). So, there you go, I would think as stated this is an I/O issue.


Oh, I'll throw out there that too many external drives connected to a computer at one time can slow the whole system down a bit. Seen it over and over, lots and lots of small drives on one computer. Connect the one your using at that time, leave the others disconnected.


Yeah, the older and some smaller Promise RAIDs are a bit noisy when they get warm.

FCP Runs Slow on iMac Pro

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